SoloRiver Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Almost as cute as my Yapillon, er, I mean Papillon. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...0208_foxes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eileen Stein Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Thanks for posting that! I have always found the fox project utterly fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloRiver Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 I have a copy of the article pdf if you want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivia Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Melanie, I would love a copy of the article if it is possible. I haven't heard anything about this project in a couple of years. Interesting that the "tamer" the foxes get the more they look like dogs, same color patterns and the structure changes as well. Olivia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I would also like a copy of the pdf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurie etc Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 ok - leave it to the Russians to come up with a new breed for agility - these should burn up the competition in the "sheltie division"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitch Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I would love a copy of the article, too, if possible.... Thanks! Kerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosperia Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 thats strange. I always toyed with the thought that BC's were somehow bred from foxes. I think it has to do with their cat like qualities, and their eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloRiver Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Um, no dogs were bred from foxes. Foxes are an entirely different species that are not interfertile with wolves. How about I send the pdf to one person, and that person sends it to the next person, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northof49 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I would love a copy of the article, too, if possible.... ME TOO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sea4th Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 leave it to the Russians to come up with a new breed for agilityThe Russians have been doing some strange things. They were, not that long ago, crossing jackals with laika's, to produce the ultimate bomb sniffing dog. I'll have to find a link to the article. This was in the '90's. And I'd love a copy of the article too. Thanks. Vicki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloRiver Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I'm going to send the article to Olivia, and then whatever happens to it is not my responsibility. Deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sea4th Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 OK! Deal. And here's a copy to the article I was referring to---Sulimov's dogs---the laika/jackal crosses. http://www.innovationsreport.de/html/beric...richt-9792.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmetteabrakai Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Don't let the AKC hear about this, they will have standards to enforce in no time :eek: LOL Andrea D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 $30 for a copy of the article? I guess I'll just have to not know the full story! It's times like this when I regret no longer being affiliated with a university and its access to online journal articles.... J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosperia Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 ok--i did say "toyed" with the idea. I wasnt really seriously thinking it. I just thought that they are similar in some ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 If it helps, I could post the article on my web site so you folks could download it and not have to send it back and forth. Just email me and let me know. Denise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Yes, Denise, please, but only if it won't get you in trouble copyright-wise (that no doubt being the reason Melanie doesn't want to send it out to everyone and anyone--no one wants to get on the wrong side of the copyright police, well, unless you live in China, in which case intellectual property rights don't mean squat).... J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Um...well...does it say you can't distribute it? If so, then I probably shouldn't post it. However, the page I would post it on would be for the folks on these boards only. Not open to the "public" (as in not listed ona search engine, etc). As soon as somone sends me the pdf I'll post it and put the link here. Denise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebecca, Irena Farm Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Oh, that's a hilarious idea. The Border Fox BACKGROUND: The origins of the Border Fox are lost in the mists of time . . . [sidebar: all the origins of practical dogs are "lost in the mists of time" to hide the fact that they were once bred using a standard other than breed ring competition] but it is certain that it is a true northern breed, with its weather resisant coat and large upright ears. Legend has it that it was a guard dog for Russian chicken coops. Certainly there is substantial literary evidence linking the Border Fox and "chicken houses." GENERAL APPEARANCE The Border Fox is the world's premier chicken-guarding dog, and any characteristic that would appear to deviate from that purpose should be severely faulted. Because foxes are associated most strongly with chickes, the Border Fox must present, above all, a foxlike appearance, well balanced with a flowing trot that suggests the ability to cover ground to patrol the chicken yard and meet predators. Primary importance is given to an alert expression to indicate watchfulness, and a gentle soft eye to prevent frightening the pullets. HEAD Clean cut and fox-like. Longer from occiput to tip of nose than broad at widest part of skull in a ratio of 7:4. More refined with less coat or ruff in females than in males, but still in the same ratio. A muscular or coarse head, or a long or narrow head with snipy muzzle, is to be penalized as deviating from the desired foxlike appearance. EXPRESSION Watchful yet nurturing. Any hardness of expression is to be penalized, as is any lack of alertness indicating a dog not suitable for guarding work. EYES Almond shaped with fully pigmented rims. Alertness and gentleness should be conveyed by a dark eye. Blue or light eyes should be penalized as not desireable in a guardian dog. EARS Set high and alertly. Can tip slightly but erect is prefered to convey the desired alert expression. NOSE/LIPS/STOP/ etc [You get the picture] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 LOL! Becca, that's priceless! J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eileen Stein Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Oh Becca, I really needed a laugh, and you sure gave me one. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisK Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Hmmmm, are you sure you're not a closet AKC standards judge???? You have a definite way with words! Thanks for the wonderful laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosperia Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 yall are too much Is that sarcasim I detect? Lost in the mists of time huh? maybe, just maybe. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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