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  1. I don't see what is wrong with a down at the end of an agility run as long as you have not taught the dog that down is a punishment. I develop a fast drop on my dogs by reward with a tug game afterward, so "down" means play for my dogs. I practice that during training sessions all the time. My dogs are either called to me or I ask them for a down in practice after the last obstacle is completed. I then call them to me, put the leash on them, and then play tug. I think one of the problems I see as an agility Judge all the time, is that the behaviour competitors want or need in their dogs at the end of the run is never actually "trained". I train that just like I train a start line, weave poles, handlng, etc and then I know I will get that in the ring. One big issue I see a lot of is dogs wanting to run out of the ring and into their crate, because these people have done a lot of Susan Garrett's crate games, and the crate is the start and finish of a lot of agility exercises. I brief dogs running out of the ring at the end of the run - they will get an E.
  2. "Euthanized lab dogs" - now that is just offensive. The Western College of Vet Medicine in Saskatchewan was going to euthanize a bunch of lab Beagles, but they got razed about it, and they were taken into rescue and all adopted. Some of them ended up with friends of mine and went on to play agility, etc instead of being killed off because they were no longer useful to the college.
  3. You don't need to have the hips certified - you just need to have an xray done and read by your vet. If your vet can't determine what the hips are like you are in real trouble and need to find a new vet. We just happened to have a board cert radiologist very close to us, and book in there, but we don't have them certify the hips - just read them. I could just as easily get my local vet to do the xray and read them.
  4. Just because both parents are clear and there hasn't been any known HD in the lines, doesn't mean that it can't happen. It's called "shit happens". No matter how clean the genetics of the lines are doesn't mean that something can't crop up. It doesn't necessarily mean that this is genetic. Is it both hips or just one? Sometimes things just don't form properly while the fetus is growing. My friend and I breed a litter every 5 - 6 years for ourselves. There has been NO HD in our lines, or in the males that we have used. Out of 4 litters of puppies - 28 puppies, one has very mild HD, and that one was out of a litter of 9. All other puppies have had good to excellent hips. Therefore, we are not panicking that we have HD in our lines. I have a tendency to do a preliminary hip xray at 9 - 10 months old, simply because I want to know what the hips are like before I start any kind of serious training on stock, agility, obedience, etc. If my puppy has poor hips, I want to know at that time to determine what kind of training I will do, or if I would have to decide agility is not an option, etc. I haven't found they have changed between then and 2 yrs of age. IF they have changed, I at least have a marker to compare 10 months to 24 months. Fortunately, we have a board certified radiologist 1.5 hrs away from where I live, and get him to do the initial xray at 10 months of age. For your peace of mind, you may want to consider getting an xray done at this time.
  5. Recently there has been a lot of discussion among quite a few European breeders who compete on stock dog trials over there about this genetic disease and testing breeding stock for it. Does anyone know of any border collies in North America that have been diagnosed with this? I looked it up at the University of Davis site and it says that it is Beagles and Border Collies and affected dogs are unable to absorb B12. It is a recessive gene so each parent must be a carrier in order to produce affected progeny.
  6. Love your dog for who she or he is, not what your ego aspires to turn the dog into. Accept their indivdiuality - they are their own being, not an extension of a person's ego. Too many people now can only feed their egos at the expense of their dog's mental and physical capabilities. Their dogs have now just become a means to an end.
  7. Are you guys using the crate games for all your agility training? The full crate games includes all the training for front crosses, rear crosses, creating drive, teaching start lines, drive from off of contacts (the dog once release is supposed to drive into their kennels and then get rewarded. I have seen some dogs hit their crate so hard it bounces 10 feet backwards), It sounds like you are doing just the first three steps or so. Her crate games encompass all aspects of agility training.
  8. My agility friends are spread out all over the place, and I have had lots of discussion from all over North America with people about the problems with crate aggression. It was discussed on the CleanRun Yahoo list a couple of years ago. You don't need a crate to teach a rear cross, a front cross, a start line, to teach drive, etc. It is one of the best marketing ploys I have seen in a long time. She has so many people convinced that you cannot possible succeed in agility without doing her crate games, and of course, lots of us know that it just ain't so. The top handlers in the world do not use SG Crate Games.
  9. Although I can't stand SG personally, she is a hell of trainer and knows how to market herself. I have heard nothing but really positive feed back about her Recall course. The only problem is that you are not supposed to share it with anyone - top secret because she doesn't anyone who doesn't pay for the course to be able to work through it. The other caution is I know her crate games are part of this course. Be VERY careful how far you go with crate games. It is notorious for creating crate aggression in dogs. Susan's only solution to this is to tell you to cover your crate. Her own dogs are bad at resource guarding. I have numerous friends that have gone totally with the crate games with their last one or two dogs - ALL have major crate aggression issues, but all of their older dogs that never played crates games are just fine. I don't think ANY training done with dogs should create behaviour issues in a dog, particularly aggression.
  10. We never run full courses during practice. We work all our foundation exercises, which may include one obstacle or several. All a course is when you think about it is a series of foundation exercises joined together.
  11. have you taught your dog the verbal left and right. Without seeing what you are doing, it also sounds like he does not understand the body language for a rear cross, and of course, without a video, we can't tell if you are giving him the correct body language for a rear cross. Have you taught him the pre-cue for a rear cross?
  12. have you taught your dog the verbal left and right. Without seeing what you are doing, it also sounds like he does not understand the body language for a rear cross, and of course, without a video, we can't tell if you are giving him the correct body language for a rear cross. Have you taught him the pre-cue for a rear cross?
  13. have you taught your dog the verbal left and right. Without seeing what you are doing, it also sounds like he does not understand the body language for a rear cross, and of course, without a video, we can't tell if you are giving him the correct body language for a rear cross. Have you taught him the pre-cue for a rear cross?
  14. The Gentle Leader or Head Halter can be a great tool to help with certain training issues. I have used it a lot with dogs that are easily distracted, have fear issues, etc and the handler needs to have control of the head. I teach all my puppies to use them, firstly, because I never know when I might need to use one, and also since I recommend them, I use my dogs for demos. BUT the most important thing is the handler has to understand HOW they work and be able to teach the dog HOW they work. They work by applying pressure, and you have to teach the dog to give to the pressure, not fight against it which is what the dog's instinct tells it to do. I have a detailed handout of how I teach the dogs to give to pressure that I give out, and I also personally spend at least two hours with someone showing them the steps, and let them work my dogs so they know what the final outcome is. The biggest problem is that people slap these things on their dog without understanding how they work and also expecting that the dogs will just accept it. If I am the only one getting a dog used to one, usually I have them 95% trained in a couple of hours. I can't remember the last time I had a dog that I worked with that hated one. WIth the owners, I have them work through the steps over a one week period - they have to have the dog totally used to it before they start using it in a class situation or on a walk. It is merely a temporary training tool OR it can be permanent. I have worked with a lot of people over the years that are physically restricted for one reason and another and wouldn't be able to walk their large dogs without the use of them. One of the biggest things is that when a dog is using one, the leash is only a foot or so long - you don't let the dog have the full length of the leash.
  15. He's a five and half month old puppy!!! He's just being a puppy, and for goodness sake, please don't take him back to the herding "trainer". Do you have him in puppy classes that uses positive training methods?
  16. Thanks for all the info everyone. I didn't go through the whole thing, as quite frankly it gave me a headache. I knew it wasn't a bona fide registry, so wanted to know about it.
  17. You don't want your border collie near anything like deer, elk, bison, etc. We have lots of people up here that breed and raise these wild animals, and none of them use dogs on them, as the instinct in these animals are to attack and try to kill the dogs. My past border collies were used very successfully by my ex-husband to hunt birds - grouse, partridge, pheasant, ducks, geese - they were actually way better than any of the labs that were used, although the down side was that once the weather got too cold up here in Canada, he couldn't sent them into the really cold water - their coats are not made for that.
  18. Does anyone know anything about this registry? http://ibcaonline.com/
  19. My friends says with all the changes in NADAC, it's like playing tennis without the net
  20. I am retiring my old boy Tucker at our AAC Trial the beginning of July. He will be 14 years old in August - pretty good for a dog that jumped 26" until he was 9 years old and then went to 22" for 1 year and then down to 16"vets after that. He has won his AAC Regionals every year, but one several years ago, and he competed at the AAC Nationals every year since he was 4 years old. This will be my first AAC Nationals without him. He is still in excellent shape, but has lost some muscle mass in his hindquarters so I don't want to take the chance of an injury so have decided that it is time for him to retire. He can, however, still compete at 10" just for fun in jumpers so he will still be coming to the trials and "competing" at least for this summer.
  21. I started competing in NADAC from the time it was first created,many many moons ago, and I competed in it on a regular basis until about 5 - 6 years ago, along with AAC and USDAA. Over the last 5 years or so, it has gone down hill. All that is stressed is speed, speed and more speed. With several of the changes, particularly getting rid of the teeter, I did contact Sharon directly via email and let her know my thoughts. Each time I got a scathing email from her, saying how I hated NADAC, how I was badmouthing NADAC and didn't care about the safety of my dogs, and how I obviously was making sure other people never competed in NADAC again. All of which was certainly not true. The people out here that just run NADAC are the ones that literally call AAC "evil". Yes, that is the word they use. As I say, I quit competing in NADAC about 5 years ago, as there is absolutely no challenge in the courses any more. The Elite standard course would be the exact same as the Novice course, the only difference being the yards/sec. It has changed so dramatically over the last 5 years, it doesn't even look like agility anymore. As well, no one designs courses anymore. THere is Sharon's "Bible" that is used. One of my friends that still does quite a bit of NADAC ran the same exact courses three trials in a row, and each of those trials were only a short distance away from her. Those trials were all within a 8 week span. That isn't supposed to happen, but it does all the time.
  22. I would love to be able to take Nicholas at NEBCR http://nebcr.org/closeups/Nicholas01.html
  23. Like I told my friend - you can't fix stupid, but you can vote it into office.
  24. Have you discussed this with other members of Arizona Border Collie Rescue and gotten their imput? Both Gail and Kellie would be able to help you with this decision.
  25. A friend of mine sent this to me. Hopefully identifying the culprit in Border Collies is not far behind. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-03/uoh-neg032212.php
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