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  1. Kent Herbel clinic 11, 12, 13 June 2012 Hado-Bar Farm Nova, Ohio contact Judi Bigham at hadobar@gmail.com
  2. Nancy -- just now reading this. How absolutely scary, but coming on late, I saved myself the anguish of hoping that she'd be OK, since your scary story has a happy ending. I've had two dogs with obstructions. One, Tam, now an old geezer, a dog who never stooped to play with toys, gulped down a portion of a rubber ball from a field that had just been mowed. 3 weeks later, messing around with different treatments, Tam lost a lot of weight, quickly, and his just hung on him in folds. I took him to another vet, who opened him up and removed 18 inches of necrotic bowel and half a small rubber ball. He's been doing great ever since. Then there was Obi, a year old pup, who unbeknownst to me, jumped up on the counter and scarfed down a couple of peaches. He started puking violently the next day. They opened him up and removed a peach pit. He got worse though. Sometime overnight, the sutures came apart in his abdomen and his entire abdominal cavity was "poisoned". I got a call late one evening from the vet who, upon opening him up again, told me what she found and was asking for permission to euthanize him. I gave my consent and said good-bye to Obi then and there. This was a heartbreaker because he was such an appealing little guy. So when I read of yours and Kit's situation, I got a sick feeling in the pit of my gut. So glad you and Kit have a happy ending!
  3. I was there for the Supreme this year. Will post pics when I'm done uploading them.
  4. All the best to you Bustopher. What else can I say except that I'll keep you in my prayers. Glad you're back.
  5. I am cancelling the appointment to put down Tam. He's not ready. I'll know when he's ready. I'm hoping he'll make a come back like Sligo. We'll wait and see. One of my concerns was is that I'm leaving the country for the first half of September, and I don't want any of my dogs to die on anyone's watch but mine. Right now he appears to be functional and fighting and as long as Tam --- or any of my dogs have the fight in them to live, I'll fight right along side of him. And he'll be with my best friend who he's known for years, so I feel a lot better. Thank you all. I have 4 seniors that could go at any time -- in their sleep or by some other way, so it's going to be a rough year, but I owe them my half of our partnership and I'll be right along side with them if they've got the fight to live or if they decide it's their time. I owe them at least that much.
  6. That this topic was brought up at this time for me is sort of a relief. I'm going through the same thing now. Tam will be 15 in October. He has really aged the last year. He is almost entirely deaf, sight is not good and senility is setting in, but he still loved to eat and run after Joe, a dog he chose as the one to follow. I came home after work this week. Tam was Tam in the morning, but something happened during the day while I was at work. I'd say a stroke, maybe idiopathic vestibular syndrome, but he could not stand and staggered around like a drunken sailor. He had the presence of mind to hold his urine until he got outside and then he could barely stand as he peed. Today is the first time he ate a little since Tuesday. I can see he's fighting it. He's not incontinent and his balance has gotten better. I made an appointment to euthanize him this Saturday morning. A couple of months ago, Sligo, another one who will be 15 in November, also had a stroke and identical symptoms to Tam. I made an appointment to euthanize Sli, but the night before the appointment, he changed a little for the better. Now, 2 months later, you can hardly tell that anything was wrong with Sli. And I also saw him struggling to --- live? I had some leftover meclizine from Sli that I've been giving to Tam and maybe that's what's helped him. Tam, unlike Sligo, is tilting his head to the side and circling in the direction of the head tilt. So do I wait this out, with Tam, hoping he makes a come back like Sli? Maybe if he starts eating, but I won't let him starve to death either. It's been a bad week and I can't even think straight to make the right decision for this dog who, in his prime, was top dog, sleek, athletic, muscles rippling beneath his glossy sleek coat, a dignity about him, now an old dog nearing the end of his life. So do I send him off to meet his maker? I just don't know.
  7. I've seen one rottie years ago who appeared to be a "natural". I don't know anything about the training center shown here or their methods, but I have seen some clips of dogs, non-border collies trained by Tony McCallum which impressed me. I read that he likes to start other breeds besides border collies on livestock. The extent of this interest, I don't know, but here he with with his boerboel, another breed I kinda like, on cattle.
  8. I had to throw out that hideous rusted old thing when Sea wasn't looking. She put the bowl down for a minute to say "Hey. We'll have none of that sort of thing around here!"
  9. I have a little bit of a border collie named Sea. Sea collects feeding bowls if I don't pick them up after feeding quick enough. She's always got a metal feeding bowl in her mouth, whether she's running, playing. If she joins the other border collies in a running around, she makes sure she has a bowl in her mouth, growling and vocalizing the entire time. She's discovered the versatility of feeding bowls --- they can be stacked! so when I crate her, it's always with 2 or 3 empty feeding bowls because she stacks them and unstacks them just so she can stack them again, when she's bored. Quite a character, is Sea. I'll post some pics of the little booger and her bowls later when I'm home.
  10. OK, I'm not quite ready to believe what I think I'm seeing, but so far, only with the DAP collar, it appears that the edge has been taken off Fletcher's anxiety. It's only been a couple of days, but he's not barking now in situations where he would have been barking before..... Only a couple of days so I'm not ready to go over the moon with joy that something this simple could be working???? We'll be having thunderstorms roll through here for the next couple of days. I haven't had a chance to get the meds yet, so these next few days could be tough, so wish us luck. Overall, I'm hoping we may be onto something here?
  11. And so I took Fletchie in and had a check up done on him and here is what we'll be trying for now. He'll be wearing a DAP collar. I have a prescription for alprazolam to use during T-storms, although my vet said according to studies, it's best to try it on him before a t-storm rolls around. I need to be home with him and monitor his response to the medication -- which should be nothing or mild sedation. If that's what I observe, then when a thunderstorm rolls through, I'll give him another dose. On an "as needed" basis. Also what she suggested that I could give him on a daily basis, if he is really that anxious, is L- theanine, which is available at most health food stores. It's for humans, but it's OK for dogs too. As far as anxiety goes, Fletcher exhibited none at the vet's office (most of my dogs loooove visiting the vet). I watched Fletch, so different from the fearful dog I first met a couple of years ago. He held his tail low, but wagged it non stop at the vet, trying to engage in some interaction with her. Fletch, would sit, offer high 5's. He was a model patient and he did me proud today. He didn't present a picture of the anxious and reactive dog I claimed him to be. Thank goodness it's not a 24/7 thing with him, but has caused me enough concern to have posted here in the first place. So let's see how this goes. Thanks for all of your suggestions and well-wishes -- not just from me, but from Fletcher too.
  12. http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/06/25/teen-arrested-for-cattle-drive-hit-and-run/ I don't know if this link was posted earlier, but it was before they caught the creep. As seriously hurt as Maggie was, here they say they had her up and walking and when she saw a pick up truck, she was ready to go back to work, bless her heart. She's got a nobility and probably work ethic about her that the creep who did this will never have.
  13. So has the entire FB group been deleted then? Or am I blocked? Maybe all these submissions of unstacked dogs were too much for the group. I'll bet that group was chuggin' along just fine until members of these boards got wind of it.
  14. And I'm totally ignorant about color genetics. FWIW
  15. More of one of the brindled pups. This is Satchmo: And Satch is certainly expressive if nothing else:
  16. A littermate to Flick -- was bred to Pulfer's Dan - son of his Tweed dog. The pups were mostly traditional tri's except for 2 who had a lot of brown on them and completely brown heads. Don't have pictures of them. This is Bay who was typical of most of that litter: One of her littermates was bred to a saddle backed tri, and produced mostly tri's with some mottling. This pup, though, who is my Dinah, is out of that litter. She's a tri sable, I think. I think that maybe she's picked up some of her g granddaddy's unusual coloring. I'd never seen Tweed in the flesh, but only some pics of him so I'm only guessing. She'd probably be pegged a collie mix if she were in a shelter. Dinah:
  17. These dogs: sire was Dale, a smooth coat, dark dog who was brindled. Dam was my Flick: properly stacked LOL Here are the results: all but the dog on the far right, who is a kelpie. In addition, there was a smooth tri-colored bitch -- lots of brown on her. Don't have a picture of her though. The three here have brindle points -- sorry, don't know the right terminology0
  18. I got a lamb's head today, brains and all. One of the dogs will be the lucky recipient of this tasty treat. My question is, are the brains safe to eat. I'm leery of feeding anything having to do with the nervous system. Thnx.
  19. Thanks Sue! So, before deciding on which meds to put him on, would anything show up in bloodwork that might steer us in the right direction? We could do thyroid, but nothing about this dog screams "check his thyroid!" to me. Right now it's bedtime. Everyone is in their place and Fletcher is quite happy in his new bedroom -- my car. Regarding the debarking issue -- I'm not 100% against it. I'm glad the option is there if it's ever needed. However, when I made the decision in Fletcher's case, it was made under stressful circumstances. Oppressive heat & humidity (don't have air conditioning by choice, but I'm about to break down), thunderstorms several nights in a row (for some reason, t-storms seem to roll through here more frequently with a lot more force). Night t-storms, I might as well forget sleeping for the 2 dogs I have who spas out before the storm even hits. So, I'm functioning on very little sleep, I'm hot, stressed and miserable, barely staying awake at work, falling asleep at the wheel while driving to work. On my last nerve, so it was under those circumstances I made the decision to debark. At my wit's end. All that on top of my two old geezers, Tam, who is going on 15 this October, and Sligo, who will be 15 in December. Sligo had a stroke about 6 weeks ago. I made and appointment to euthanize him, but he rallied. He's doing better, a LOT better, but he won't be the dog he was before. Tam, is nearly entirely deaf and is going blind. It's only a matter of time, I know, but as long as the fight is in them, I'll fight right along with them. So it wasn't just one factor, it was a lot of stress in a relatively small period of time. I'm glad I came here to dump on you all because I'm feeling more grounded now. Thank you.
  20. Please don't worry about being harsh. It's not an easy situation and I appreciate cut-to-the-chase feedback. We're talking about a life here, one I think is worth saving, that and the other lives involved in this situation. What affects one, affects all of us. I'm not picking up my toys going anywhere. I came here asking for help and thank you to all of you who've responded. I know debarking is extreme and if it were to leave a dog voiceless, I wouldn't do it. I have a partially debarked rescue dog who was pretty much unadoptable when he came to me. He's been with me 12 yrs. He barks, a lot, always has, never had an off switch, but you can live with it now. It was the last option before euthanasia for him. I know that debarking is not only a last resort, but it's for the sake of the owner, not the dog and if it helps keep the dog warden from my door, so be it. I do know Fletch has issues that must be addressed if he's to live. I've been agonizing about our situation for a long time. I like the dog, a lot. I've lost sleep over this situation and coming to the decision to debark him, even if partially, is not one I came to easily. That's one of the reasons I brought these problems here, and based on the responses so far, I've cancelled his appointment. I'm going to try to work with him by taking the route of medications and a thundershirt. Fletch has come a long way since he came to me. I'm not giving up on him just yet and so if it happens that there is no home out there for him, he'll continue to live with me. I'm not ready to extinguish that light that shines in his eyes.
  21. Here's a pic of the perp. Fletcher. I have an appointment with the vet and I have no doubt she'd be willing to discuss anti-anxiety meds. I agree that maybe he needs a general medication that he takes every day and then something extra for when t-storms roll through. My other thunderphobic dog, Chuck, I have found the place he does best in is his dog where he heads to his crate and curls up in there. That's his safe place. Fletcher does well in my car during a thunderstorm. But the car is available only when I'm home. I might add that if there were the slightest hint of human aggression, that would be all the excuse I'd need to euthanize him and save myself anxiety, wear and tear on my property, and $$ - to replace the property damaged during thunderphobic episodes and vet bills when he claws his way in and comes face to face with his two arch enemies. Yeh, it's that bad. We have a vet appointment for him anyway. I'm having him partially debarked. He'll still have a voice but the volume will be cranked down a few notches. It's then that I'll discuss medication options for him. Also, just yesterday, I took back a littermate to one of the dogs he hates. This dog, Jack, is 8 yrs. old, neutered, a stranger to my pack, but I was able to put him in the dog pen with Fletch and they were fine together. So I think Fletcher has enough going for him to justify these efforts I'm making on his behalf. He really is a nice dog overall. He just needs someone who is willing and has the time to work with him. Just a little Fletcher story. The guy that adopted him would spend a lot of one on one time with Fletch and they played this game. You know that trick where something is put under 3 cups on a table and then they are quickly moved around & then you have to guess which cup holds the object. They'd play that. Fletch on one side of the table. Owner on the other side. Fletch would either take his paw or push with his nose one of the cups and he was never wrong. He LOVED that game. He loves using his mind.
  22. I agree that he has generalized anxiety. I had placed him once, but he was back in a month because everytime the owner left the dog would bark. and bark and bark. And neighbors complained. That was the only reason he came back. He did well otherwise. Yes, he's neutered. He has been up for adoption. On my Pet finder site, my descriptions of adoptable dogs state the bad & emphasize the good. People need to know exactly what they are bringing into their homes, and I guess most people deemed poor Fletch as too much of a challenge. Re: Thundershirt -- as hot and humid as it's been, I don't want to put another layer on this dogs body, although while I'm home I could use it for short periods of time when needed. Picking fights -- yes with the 2 dogs he hates. Yes. Easily aroused - yes. I might also add that his kennel mate is like his underling and if there is something that arouses the both of them, the kennel mate catches it. Nothing physically harmful or serious, but just gets jumped on and pushed around with a lot of snarky noises.
  23. Another way of looking at this dog's problems is, you might say, his thunderphobia, is seasonal. During the winter he is quite content to lie on his blankets in the back hall with his two other buddies. He's quiet, for the most part, and content. No T-storms during the winter -- so he's got some good months in his life. However, his hatred for the two other dogs is not seasonal. His desire to jump the other two dogs is always "on".
  24. Not valium, but clonazapam. Little effect, so maybe a stronger drug like valium would work. It's crossed my mind. The problem is, do I pop a valium down his throat just in case the weather forecast is correct in predicting thunderstorms while I'm at work? It might be doable if I were home, but I work M-F. And I would worry about the effects of leaving a dog at home unsupervised while drugged. Besides, the effects of valium might wear off from the time I left for work and a thunderstorm possibly rolling through later in the day. See where I'm coming from?
  25. Thanks Sue. In my head I know you're right, but I like this dog, and my heart pulls me the other way, and so I spend more money and sleepless nights thinking about how I could make life better for him. I've always had an aversion to euthanizing a healthy dog, but here comes into question, the concept of "healthy". Physically, he's fine, but is he mentally healthy? I only ever euthanized for behavioral issues, one other dog, and it was a serious situation, one where he had gotten to the point of becoming a liability, and that was Sam, a young adult, I'd venture to say a bc cross. Sam put me in the hospital with a well-aimed bite at my hand. I now have a plate and 3 screws in that hand. The dog in question here doesn't have any issues with people. He likes people. There has never ever been any questionable behavior with me or other people and most other dogs. However, the 2 in my house he dislikes, it becomes a battle to the end, if he has his way. As I type this, he is in the dog pen right now, with another dog and he's playing in the kiddie pool. A happy dog.
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