Valhalla Posted December 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Funny how no one has mentioned Cabela's. Aren't they one of the leaders in outdoor wear for hunters? Sam, didn't you have a jacket from Cabela's? Did you not like it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrayburn Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I think no one suggested Cabela's because you mentioned in your first post that you didn't like anything you saw there. My dad LOVES Cabela's and I really like the couple of items of boating gear that I have gotten there. They tend to have good stuff at a more reasonable price than the more prestigious companies like Patagucci/North Face/etc. I do think some of Cabela's stuff is a little heavier, less tailored, and/or less technologically advanced but it is very practical and a good value. It would probably be a great place to find a sheep-working jacket if you can find something you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by lrayburn:I think no one suggested Cabela's because you mentioned in your first post that you didn't like anything you saw there. My dad LOVES Cabela's and I really like the couple of items of boating gear that I have gotten there. Oh duh, I did say that! They have a nice Gore-Tex jacket. It is the Cabela's GORE-TEX? EXV? Parka. I've heard some people have not been pleased with Gore-Tex and that it loses its waterproofing quickly. Is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyO Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Hi Christine, I bought the Cabela goretex parka when it was on sale, bought the parka because it is longer. runs big. Haven't used it enough to know how waterproof it is. But heard from another source that if it is no longer waterproof, that Cabela will replace it for free, without question. You might want to look into the guarantee of whatever you buy. I do have an LL Bean gortex long parka, slightly above knee. Have used it for several years. When really wet, it feels like it might be leaking, feels clammy against the skin, but it has not. What I have done is change parkas part way through the day, so I put on a dry one and let the wet one dry off, which they tend to do pretty quickly, even in a trailer that is damp. Would suggest you look at the hood part of the parka and get one that you can adjust the hood in the rear of the hood, so that front isn't always falling into your face. Have to agree, that to be totally waterproof, the rubber ones can't be beat, but can't stand wearing it for too long. Nancy O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloRiver Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I've heard some people have not been pleased with Gore-Tex and that it loses its waterproofing quickly. Is that true? Not in my experience. The parka I have now is over four years old and when the weather gets below 50 degrees I wear it pretty much every day. I think you'd have to be abrading it very heavily and washing it too much for the waterproofing to last less than several years. Gore-Tex has care pages online that have more info: Care of Gore-Tex: http://www.gore-tex.com/webapp/wcs/stores/...productId=10087 Restoring water repellency: http://www.gore-tex.com/webapp/wcs/stores/...productId=10301 My parka is Gore-Tex XCR, which is much lighter in weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I bet everyone on these boards has just gotten the best lessons in breathable/waterproof rain wear! Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workindogs Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I didn't mention Cabela's because you said you didn't like the unfashionable clothes. I have Cabela's Gortex long coat and pants. They are great.....never failed when I had to set sheep for half the day in horizontal rain. I won't step foot in the pens though....the Gortex is too delicate and would rip easily. I also have Cabela's Gortex insulated boots. They are fabulous. None the the items are fashionable (boxy and baggy), but the price was pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 I had the gortex parka and down pants from them and found them to loose their water repelency almost immediately..dunno if maybe I am just taking care of them wrong. Will go back later and check out the link Melanie posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herderdog Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Wow! I just bought a waterproof-windproof parka from our local Sportsman's Warehouse (had to get out of there --too much fun). It is a Hodgman--very cool jacket. I liked it much better than all the Columbia stuff I saw there too. I looked up their website http://www.hodgman.com/S2-FS.html I bought the ladies microfiber wader jacket--online, in the sale stuff- it is only $29.00! It has lots of pockets a nice collar with a hood and is soft (almost like velour) to the touch. I thought it was a good buy and I paid $89.00! Fits well anhd looks good. I did not see a color selection on line--mine is sort of a brick color. They have lots of other items there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 I can't believe we're using up precious border collie space discussing raingear. Oh well. Goretex is goretex. In the very early days (decades ago now) there were some problems with quality control that caused some people to have different experiences with it than others did, but no more, and the goretex people go out of their way to make sure that all goretex performs just like it should. The problem is that not everyone understands how waterproof/breathable fabrics work. The fabric contains pores that are waaaay too small to let liquid water molecules in. A goretex jacket should never leak water in through the fabric. Heck, they make chest waders for fishermen and even drysuits for divers out of goretex these days. If water leaks in through the seams, maybe you should go with one of those high-end manufacturers next time. The breathable part is trickier. The pores do let the smaller moisture vapor molecules pass from your body out, but the humidity outside the jacket has to be *lower* than inside the jacket, or the moisture vapor will stay inside and make you think you're getting wet from outside. So for those of us who live in rainy climates where the humidity is always high, we can pretty much forget about the moisture we generate inside finding its way out of the jacket, except on the rare sunny days. But then, why wear a jacket on those days? The reason they tell you to keep your goretex jacket clean (besides looking stylish) is that there's a water-repellent coating on the outside that keeps the fabric itself from getting wet, and that coating doesn't like salt, oils, dirt, etc. When the fabric gets wet it feels clammy, and that too makes you think it's leaking. But it isn't. That's my understanding anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joan Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Originally posted by Alaska:I can't believe we're using up precious border collie space discussing raingear. Oh well. Hey, you should just be glad we aren't talking about some of the *other* things we discuss under the handlers' tent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Wall Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Maybe this thread should go in the FAQs section. Heaven knows it'll be the only one from the "handler's tent" to ever be eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloRiver Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 We could talk about other stuff we bring to trials too. Those of you with RVs probably just gas up and go, but those of us who work out of our cars have to pack our trial gear. I'm the one at trials who looks like I got lost and took a wrong turn trying to get to the agility trial instead. Everything I have is made out of mesh, and is collapsible. For the dogs I bring a half-dome shade tent and set up three mesh Cabana Crates inside it. I also make sure I have a lot of water for the dogs and a one-gallon drink cooler to serve it in, extra towels (on hot days, I wet them down and lay them across the tops of the crates to cool the dogs off), battery-operated crate fans, extra batteries, a couple of extra tarps, two aluminum shade cloths, bungies, and tent stakes. In my "dog bag" I have bug spray, sunscreen, poop bags, extra garbage bags, poison ivy lotion, long lines, Flexi leads, a couple of balls, dog snacks and some dog food in case we're there late and we have to eat at the field, small flashlight/headlamp, baby wipes, a pocket knife and (after the last trial) an extra whistle on an extra lanyard. For me I pack a small soft-sided cooler with a couple of sandwiches and lots of sodas. And paper towels. And even if it's sunny I make sure I have my rain gear and extra socks. My dog trial vehicle, and my only vehicle, is a 1996 Acura Integra that just barely fits me and three dogs. If I had a truck I probably wouldn't need to bring half this stuff and could crate out of the car, but that'll have to wait for having a real income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 Hey I resent that. We had a very fullfilling discussion on different drinks and their ingredients..now why pray tell didnt that make the faq section??? Inquiring minds want to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackacre Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 OMG Melanie, Out of your list, I can confess to: 1.water 2. whistle. and 1. doesn't always make the list. <<bemused head shake>> And, since I don't think this quite qualifies under the heading "Training" but I'm still thrilled, Nap chewed through his leash while I was trading outruns with a friend and made a beeline for the sheep. HE GOT AROUND THE SHEEP, balanced and tried to bring them a couple of times. Cooooooool. He is now an official round pen dropout. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 That qualifies as a 30 yard outrun too! What will I do with poor Fred???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackacre Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 What's *%$# Red Dog doing? Only 200 yards? A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Naw I am happy if they take the time to SPIT the wool out vs swallowing an ear or something..You have to be happy for little things ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 shhhhhhh, don't tell Sam, but Jody was picking sheep off Renee & Rae this weekend. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 It's sure going to be fun around here next spring and summer with all of these younguns. I had mine on sheep again this weekend Mark. As Sam says, be verrrrry afraid.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Quakin' in my boots. I guess it's time to make sheep arrangements for our Christmas trip to SC. I wouldn't want to fall behind over the holidays. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Just tell Renee she picked a good one out of my crew. You can bet Tess ain't going no-where! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Hey Mark, Where in SC will you be? I will be house/farm sitting for Bob M. over Christmas, so if Georgetown (south of Myrtle Beach) is within reasonable driving distance for you, y'all are welcome to come over and work dogs! J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 I do have 2 stops arranged for my Christmas trip so you are falling behind. Nah, not really. Mine are 7 months old today so nothing serious for a while longer. Sure am seeing some stuff i really like though on our little weekend exposures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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