patw Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Thank you all for welcoming me to this forum and responding to my questions about Border Collies. I have one BC, a rescue, who was given away because he was too active, too energetic and too driven, adopted out, given away again for the same reason, adopted out again this time by a family with three BC’s, given away again. I finally got him. I love the fact that he is too active and too driven, so he will spend the rest of his life with me. He is so loving but extremely disobedient despite all the training by a local obedience trainer. A lady who is into herding told me that he is the exact opposite of “biddable” but I don’t mind because he is the most loving and affectionate dog I have ever known. However I would like to get into herding and would like to acquire a border collie puppy who will make a good herding dog. I need your advise and suggestions on where I might be going wrong and what mistakes I may be making in my search for a pup. Since I am a novice and all my knowledge is derived from books about border collies and websites (rather than from practical experience that most of you have), I am pretty darned sure I am making more than a few errors, and I would like you all to point my mistakes out to me. I have been to herding events and looked at many BC breeders and will classify them as below: I. AKC breeders: No comments. II. BC’s from Ranches and farms: These are Border Collies used on ranches and farms for day-to-day work on cattle and/or sheep. These dogs are usually accustomed to riding on the bed of pick-ups, are very, very dirty (LOL) but equally sweet and they are great at working. I love these dogs. But I see two problems. (1) When I visited some large ranches, I heard comments from ranchers like “my border collies were merely giving eye which is not enough to move cattle, so I added a bit of heeler and bred them again to border collies. Now my border collies are vicious and will bite any cattle.” This makes me reluctant to buy a BC from such ranchers. (2) Breedings are not planned and litters are thrown up at random and I hear jokes like “I am sure this pup had a red fox for its dad”. The farmers and ranchers also pay no attention to hip/elbows and CEA. I hear them say stuff like “Sure some pups get hip dysplasia but I put a bullet into those dogs.” Breeding for health is a last priority for this group. III. BC’s from hobbyists: These are breeders who first buy border collies and then acquire 3, 4 or 5 sheep for their BC’s. The breeders seem to be web and internet sophisticated and when they hear about hip/elbows and CEA testing, they do the requisite tests but I have heard their dogs lack the genuine herding drive that BC’s from ranches and farms have. Some of these hobbyist breeders focus on color. Some focus on the sports market and breed for agility and flyball. This makes me reluctant to buy from this group either. IV. The Elites: These would be the ones who win awards at top herding events and usually hold very prominent positions in BC organizations. It is difficult to get access to such people. They don’t normally reply to your emails and if they are always blowing you away, it is difficult to find the courage to talk to them. At herding competitions, they are always busy or surrounded by equally important people. And they won’t sell their dogs to a nobody like me. V. The Inaccessibles: These would be good breeders in Scotland and equally inaccessible regions who are too far away for me to get a pup from. Now I have been to herding events and talked to many breeders I met at these herding events but all of them seem to fall into one of the categories above. So I seem to have drawn a blank as all sources seem unsatisfactory. But like I said, as a novice, I am sure I am making more than a few errors in my search for a pup, and I would like you all to point my mistakes out to me. I need your advise and suggestions on where I might be going wrong and what mistakes I may be making in my search for a pup. I would especially appreciate it if you can recommend SPECIFIC breeders of BC’s to me. My email address is A@B where A=patwilhendorf and B=gmail.com Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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