Meg's mum Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Have any of you ever shared your BC's NON AKC pedigree (if its known?). I was thinking of adding pictures of Megs Dam and Sire's pedigree as pictures to the the gallery to see if any of your BC's are related to her. I haven't found any justification for doing this, mind you. Its just a matter of curiosity really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Meg's Mum, "Working dog folk" talk about pedigrees all the time. One of the first things a person at a trial or clinic might ask you is "What's the breeding on your dog?"--especially if they've seen the dog work and like it or recognize some aspects of its work that remind them of certain crosses. For example, a couple of my dogs are out of Kuykendall lines and I can recognize other dogs from those lines by the way they work and often the way they look, so if I see such a dog, I will indeed ask the owner about the dog's pedigree. That's a long-winded way of saying post away--there's plenty of us that would be happy to have a look! J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishinBC Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Meg, when we first adopted Briar Rose, we were looking through all the dogs in her past on her ABCA registration. A ways back she had an International Supreme Champion (ISDS registry) in her lines. Our kids thought that was so cool, so I contacted ISDS and was able to order a copy of that dog's pedigree. It is now framed next to Briar's just for decorating purposes only. (AHAH) Briar seems to have gotten none of her grandsire's herding genes. Unless you painted the sheep tennis ball green and launched them into the field, she could care less. But we love her anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvmybc's Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I've been doing herding a little over a year now and I have a dog that's coming along quite well, the thing is I'd love to know his lineage farther than his parents. When I look at his pedigree, I honestly don't know what I'm looking at (along with my other two) I've always wished someone knowledge could have a look and tell me all about his background and what lines he's from. Hint hint Julie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Here are 4 of ours for you to see if there is any overlap with yours. Rae Jody Peg Bette Gyp is Rae's littermate and Starr is their mother so you have their pedigrees too. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katelynn & Gang Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 This is a great idea. I'll try and find a way to post my three! Katelynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 There's a really great service you can use if you have an ISDS number on a dog, that gives a lot of information such as National and International qualifying and placements, and some health data as well. I've had several done on ISDS dogs and also had the database owner do a pedigree on Gael, who isn't ISDS registered but has ISDS registered parents. It's pretty cheap, was less than 10 bucks each when i had it done. The price changes based on exchange rates since the owner is overseas. Easy to order and get though. The service is at http://www.bcdb.info/PedServ.htm To see a couple of examples, i put Spottie and Gael's pedigrees on my website. Gael -- http://www.sheepdogsonline.com/shoofly/gaelped.pdf Spottie -- http://www.sheepdogsonline.com/shoofly/spottie.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg's mum Posted March 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I've uploaded Meg's Sire and Damme http://www.bordercollie.org/cgi-bin/ultima...t=001698#000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Check out Spottie's pedigree that i linked to above. It looks like both of your dogs have Wisp in their lines and he's in hers as well, so you can see some of the accomplishments of the dogs in his line. There are *tons* of dogs related to Wisp out there. He was bred extensively overseas and then retired here in the US and was bred quite a lot here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katelynn & Gang Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Here are my dogs pedigrees. http://katelynnsworkers.tripod.com/ Katelynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg's mum Posted March 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Thanks for the info on Wisp! I finally figured out that IMP means imported, and CS means Serbia and Montenegro - at least that is what I currently believe by inference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat's Dogs Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Meg's mum, I have heard of those dogs before. I was actually considering a pup from them at one point...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg's mum Posted March 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 When I last spoke with the bredder Jan Williams, she indicated that she was hesitant about breeding for a new litter for awhile. It took her much longer to place Meg's sisters and brothers than she was accostomed to. I believe there is one male left from the Nov 8 litter. Jan is salt of the earth, a hard working woman who has been afflicted with Border Colliitis for twenty years. She lives in her Wellies. Shelton, WA is small holding livestock area. Its the location of the All Breed Herding Club of Western Washington. Lots of sheep and secondary sheep related cottage industry there. I keep tossing and turning nights thinking about that last pup. But I really do have enough challenges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloRiver Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Solo's pedigree: http://home.earthlink.net/~soloriver/soloped.html Fly's pedigree: http://home.earthlink.net/~soloriver/flyped.html or (warning, will download a pdf) http://home.earthlink.net/~soloriver/Fly242133.pdf The latter is another example of Mr. van den Dool's handiwork. Highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dal & Mad's Mom Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 katelynn Dally shares some breeding with your cue. Dal's mom has Taff in her and 3 Generations from Orin Barnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katelynn & Gang Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Sheryl, That is neat. What other of Orin's dogs does Dally have in that pedigree? Seems like there are a lot of dogs with Wisp in their pedigrees! I almost bred Dice to a Wisp son. Does anyone have dogs without Wisp in their pedigrees? If so, can we see those pedigrees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dal & Mad's Mom Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 That is neat. What other of Orin's dogs does Dally have in that pedigree? He has Nick and Jody. I just google searched Orins site and I'm not sure if that is the same Nick or not. Dally's Grandsire Dally came from Orin. I Google searched For George Martin ( Dal's Moms breeder) but, I'm only finding winning show results from pups with the same parentage as jingles. Edit I also have a question is Dunnichen, by Forfar in Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvmybc's Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Ok I hope I did this right. This is all so interesting . . . Here's Pal's, I'll try to make Gyp and Jess' later - http://www.sitstay.com/cgi-bin/pedigree.cgi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodi Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Rachel - Please tell me you e-mailed that pedigree to yourself... Sitstay doesn't retain them. Once you close the window, it's gone unless you clicked the option to have it e-mailed ... Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dal & Mad's Mom Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 This is cool I really never thought to google the people in Dal's papers but, I found Pics of Jo Woodbury at a sheep trial in the UK. Poor Dal might not win a barbie border contest but, he has the backround to herd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dal & Mad's Mom Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 alright I'm having too much fun with google by putting in dog names with their numbers I can extend back his paedigree and I also found this guy in his direct backround http://www.sheepdogsforsale.com/Dolwen%20Chips%20Page.htm edit this bitch is also in his line http://www.sheepdogs.homestead.com/files/s...isds_244871.htm I could be wrong but, I think all the people who told me I was getting a bad pup should possibly take it back. This is Dal's dad's backround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workindogs Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 My dog's pedigrees can be found at: http://home.netcom.com/~ebaker3/pedigrees/id1.html Only Zoe has Wisp in her pedigree (2x)....the rest are Wisp free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Oop Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Okay, I'm totally jealous here. Those of us with rescue pups really can't trace our pup's lines. My Allie is the greatest, and as I don't have sheep, would probably do rescue again as opposed to buying a BC, but I do admit to feeling a little sad that I can't find out anything about her lineage. I am going to contact the rescue to see if they have any more information about the breeder the original owner supposedly purchased Allie from - somewhere in Kansas. (And I am sitting in Utah, where genealogy is a way of life!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dal & Mad's Mom Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 I am going to contact the rescue to see if they have any more information about the breeder the original owner supposedly purchased Allie from - somewhere in Kansas. That might be worth a try. We dont know a thing about Frodo and people are fawning over him in FL. (All right the cocky brat is beautiful) Moms friend was making up a line for him.lol We also eventually received Penny's papers from GH when they worked it out with her former owner We sort of gave up hope considering his circumstances. The papered rescues are out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katelynn & Gang Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Nice pedigree workindogs! Mist has Soot (ABC 12218) in her pedigree. I must say I am green over that, I'd love a dog related to Soot! Sheryl, pedigree research sure is fun, eh? Katelynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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