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Have any of you ever shared your BC's NON AKC pedigree (if its known?). I was thinking of adding pictures of Megs Dam and Sire's pedigree as pictures to the the gallery to see if any of your BC's are related to her.

I haven't found any justification for doing this, mind you. Its just a matter of curiosity really.

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Meg's Mum,

"Working dog folk" talk about pedigrees all the time. One of the first things a person at a trial or clinic might ask you is "What's the breeding on your dog?"--especially if they've seen the dog work and like it or recognize some aspects of its work that remind them of certain crosses. For example, a couple of my dogs are out of Kuykendall lines and I can recognize other dogs from those lines by the way they work and often the way they look, so if I see such a dog, I will indeed ask the owner about the dog's pedigree. That's a long-winded way of saying post away--there's plenty of us that would be happy to have a look!

 

J.

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Meg, when we first adopted Briar Rose, we were looking through all the dogs in her past on her ABCA registration. A ways back she had an International Supreme Champion (ISDS registry) in her lines.

 

Our kids thought that was so cool, so I contacted ISDS and was able to order a copy of that dog's pedigree. It is now framed next to Briar's just for decorating purposes only. (AHAH)

 

Briar seems to have gotten none of her grandsire's herding genes. Unless you painted the sheep tennis ball green and launched them into the field, she could care less. But we love her anyway!

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I've been doing herding a little over a year now and I have a dog that's coming along quite well, the thing is I'd love to know his lineage farther than his parents.

 

When I look at his pedigree, I honestly don't know what I'm looking at (along with my other two) :rolleyes: I've always wished someone knowledge could have a look and tell me all about his background and what lines he's from. Hint hint Julie! :D

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There's a really great service you can use if you have an ISDS number on a dog, that gives a lot of information such as National and International qualifying and placements, and some health data as well. I've had several done on ISDS dogs and also had the database owner do a pedigree on Gael, who isn't ISDS registered but has ISDS registered parents. It's pretty cheap, was less than 10 bucks each when i had it done. The price changes based on exchange rates since the owner is overseas. Easy to order and get though.

 

The service is at http://www.bcdb.info/PedServ.htm

 

To see a couple of examples, i put Spottie and Gael's pedigrees on my website.

 

Gael --

http://www.sheepdogsonline.com/shoofly/gaelped.pdf

 

Spottie --

http://www.sheepdogsonline.com/shoofly/spottie.pdf

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Check out Spottie's pedigree that i linked to above. It looks like both of your dogs have Wisp in their lines and he's in hers as well, so you can see some of the accomplishments of the dogs in his line. There are *tons* of dogs related to Wisp out there. He was bred extensively overseas and then retired here in the US and was bred quite a lot here too.

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When I last spoke with the bredder Jan Williams, she indicated that she was hesitant about breeding for a new litter for awhile. It took her much longer to place Meg's sisters and brothers than she was accostomed to. I believe there is one male left from the Nov 8 litter.

 

Jan is salt of the earth, a hard working woman who has been afflicted with Border Colliitis for twenty years. She lives in her Wellies. Shelton, WA is small holding livestock area. Its the location of the All Breed Herding Club of Western Washington. Lots of sheep and secondary sheep related cottage industry there.

 

I keep tossing and turning nights thinking about that last pup. But I really do have enough challenges.

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Solo's pedigree:

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~soloriver/soloped.html

 

Fly's pedigree:

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~soloriver/flyped.html

 

or (warning, will download a pdf)

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~soloriver/Fly242133.pdf

 

The latter is another example of Mr. van den Dool's handiwork. Highly recommended.

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Sheryl,

 

That is neat. What other of Orin's dogs does Dally have in that pedigree?

 

Seems like there are a lot of dogs with Wisp in their pedigrees! I almost bred Dice to a Wisp son.

 

Does anyone have dogs without Wisp in their pedigrees? If so, can we see those pedigrees?

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That is neat. What other of Orin's dogs does Dally have in that pedigree?

 

He has Nick and Jody. I just google searched Orins site and I'm not sure if that is the same Nick or not. Dally's Grandsire Dally came from Orin.

 

I Google searched For George Martin ( Dal's Moms breeder) but, I'm only finding winning show results from pups with the same parentage as jingles.

 

Edit I also have a question is Dunnichen, by Forfar in Scotland?

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alright I'm having too much fun with google by putting in dog names with their numbers I can extend back his paedigree and I also found this guy in his direct backround http://www.sheepdogsforsale.com/Dolwen%20Chips%20Page.htm

 

edit this bitch is also in his line http://www.sheepdogs.homestead.com/files/s...isds_244871.htm

 

I could be wrong but, I think all the people who told me I was getting a bad pup should possibly take it back. This is Dal's dad's backround.

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Okay, I'm totally jealous here. Those of us with rescue pups really can't trace our pup's lines. My Allie is the greatest, and as I don't have sheep, would probably do rescue again as opposed to buying a BC, but I do admit to feeling a little sad that I can't find out anything about her lineage.

 

I am going to contact the rescue to see if they have any more information about the breeder the original owner supposedly purchased Allie from - somewhere in Kansas.

 

(And I am sitting in Utah, where genealogy is a way of life!) :rolleyes:

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I am going to contact the rescue to see if they have any more information about the breeder the original owner supposedly purchased Allie from - somewhere in Kansas.

 

That might be worth a try. We dont know a thing about Frodo and people are fawning over him in FL. (All right the cocky brat is beautiful)

 

Moms friend was making up a line for him.lol

 

We also eventually received Penny's papers from GH when they worked it out with her former owner We sort of gave up hope considering his circumstances. The papered rescues are out there.

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