MaggieDog Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 The calming cap isn't really used in cases where the dog is fearful or panicky as far as i've heard - it's designed more for pure overstimulation. Yes, if an animal is fearful/panicky in a certain situation, dimming vision isn't a real great idea, but if they are reacting to a visual stimulus from a more offensive position or due to "sudden environmental change" the cap may be quite helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Do EMT's even bother working on dogs? That would be interesting seeing an accident seeing and an EMT doing mouth to snout on some poor injured dog. LJS, I envy you for getting to be a small town boy, but it does have its drawbacks. There is a big world out there, and a lot of innovative people trying to make it a better one for all of us. Yes, EMTs are starting to be trained and equipped to do CPR on pets, particularly in house fires. Being in an accident or fire is traumatic enough without the added stress of losing your pet, as we all learned from Katrina, and humane societies are working with rescue personnel to equip them to do something about it. Read this: Pasadena Fire Department Gives Animals a Fighting Chance Here is a picture of a dog demoing a rescue mask: Suspend your disbelief for a bit and think about what else might be possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 I think the idea of the calming cap is to freeze the dog where they are. Tucker (who is smart but not sharp) had a towel over his head and he just stood there and was very relaxed with his eyes covered. I think thats the idea of the cap is to immobilize the dog. I think thats how it works. Wrong. Did you read my earplug analogy above? Once again, a calming cap is NOT the same thing as a blindfold. And it surely is not the same thing as ACE. ACE immobilizes the dog while continuing to expose it to the full range of sensory stimuli. The calming cap does the exact opposite. Like earplugs. Ahem. Instead of speculating, why not do a google search for "calming cap" and see what you can learn? Try this: Marin Humane Society’s Trish King develops the Gentle Leader® Calming Cap™ BTW, I'm not advocating the calming cap as an alternative to training. It's just a management tool that you can incorporate into your program for eventually eliminating the unwanted behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc4pack Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Just my 2 bits... the key in all of this is to prevent the practice of the behavior. Oh and speaking of earplugs.... Do y'all know there are actually earmuffs for dogs? http://www.petexpertise.com under dog training aids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyPaws Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Well, you do have car seats for kids - they aren't just laying around on the floor And it has been proven that carseats are the safest place for a child to be in an accident. As far as crates for dogs, in an accident you could have flying stuff all over your car (and with a sudden stop at 60 mph, a flying kleenex box has enough force to break your neck). You will be safer without a dog flying at you, and your dog will be safer not being in the position to fly through the car/windshield/open window/etc. Yup, there's still going to be some trauma in the crate or seatbelt, but your dog is not going to be moving nearly as far, and has a greater chance of coming through the accident alive. Made me think of an interesting Q - we bought a new car when we got our BC pup - big enough for her to go in the boot with a dog guard, plus a crate for my JR to go in, also in the boot (to keep them apart really - can do without play fighting in the car!) and have always had it fixed to the floor. we ended up with a bright orange 4x4 Would it be safer in an accident, for the crate to be fixed to the ground (its got dog lead style clips on the bottom, which are clipped onto rings in the floor intended for securing things to) or would it cause less injury to the dog if the crate was free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandra s. Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Kessie gets too excited in cars, too. She's not scared but hyper, and pants so much that she starts coughing after a few hours. Therefore, she goes in a crate for long drives. What we do on long drives (having no space for proper car crates) is put a normal plastic crate on the backseat, behind the passenger seat, and move the seat backwards so that the crate is snugly wedged in. Then I cover the air slits on the front side with something (towel, for example), and voilà, a ticked-off doggie goes to sleep . Maybe that method is an option for you, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesney's Girl Posted August 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Kessie gets too excited in cars, too. She's not scared but hyper, and pants so much that she starts coughing after a few hours. Therefore, she goes in a crate for long drives. What we do on long drives (having no space for proper car crates) is put a normal plastic crate on the backseat, behind the passenger seat, and move the seat backwards so that the crate is snugly wedged in. Then I cover the air slits on the front side with something (towel, for example), and voilà, a ticked-off doggie goes to sleep . Maybe that method is an option for you, too? I'll have to try that. Maybe I can get a small enough crate that he can sleep in but still fit in my backseat! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheRuffMuttGang Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I can actually fit a 32" Vari Kennel in the backseat of my Honda the way Sandra described. That being said, I can't do that when I have all of my dogs with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OurBoys Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I can actually fit a 32" Vari Kennel in the backseat of my Honda the way Sandra described. That being said, I can't do that when I have all of my dogs with me. I'm amazed you can fit 8 dogs in your car period!! I'm still waiting on the video (hint, hint ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenajo Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Curious, but why do you need all 8 dogs with you at one time? I have a large pack too, but it's a rare occassion that everybody needs to go to the same place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Lenajo, I'm not Debbie, but I can say that I have often travelled with all my dogs (6-9) with me. If you have no one at home and no convenient way to have someone come and care for them when you're travelling, then sometimes (or often) you just take all of them along. Many's the sheepdog trial I've travelled to with every one of my dogs in tow.... J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesney's Girl Posted August 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Usually (Debbie can correct me) everyone is going to the park when she has them all in her car at the same time. They all need exercise and why not exercise them all at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheRuffMuttGang Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 All of my dogs go to the park at the same time, several times per week. It looks something like this: Also, as Julie mentioned, when I travel they all go with me. Now here's the real shocker. Not only can I fit myself and 8 dogs into my Honda Civic...but I can fit myself, my 8 dogs AND my mother into my Honda Civic...oh yeah, and enough crates/expens to house everyone at a flyball tournament for the weekend. Now THAT'S a sight to see. The even better part is when I get them all out one by at at a tournament and someone with one dog walks by and comments on how well-behaved my dogs are because they aren't pulling me over as I get the other dogs out of the car (and yes, I can walk all 8 of them on leash at the same time). BTW, I have the video...just haven't gotten it uploaded on here yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Kong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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