Leonf Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 A few weeks ago I ordered a packet of 25 "Duramune Max 5" vaccines for my puppies from Agri-Med (http://www.agri-med.com/). While transit time in shipping was only 2 days and they were packed in a styrofoam box with ice packs, when received the vaccines and the ice packs were quite warm to touch (I estimate about 90 degrees). I sent a couple of emails to Agri-Med asking about whether it was safe to use these vaccines but the emails were not answered. Finally, I also called Agri-Med and I was assured, verbally, that the vaccines were safe to use. It is hard to understand how the vaccines could have become so warm in only 2 days transit time. Any experience and/or opinions would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I don't know if they're safe, but personally, I wouldn't use them and I'd request a full refund from the company. This time of year, most places will only ship overnight b/c of the heat. -Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Who manufactured these vaccines? Agri-Med is just the distributer. I'd call the manufacturer for an answer to this question. Some formulations can keep the antigens stable for some period above 4C (fridge temp) while other formulations are not stable. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvw Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I don't know about this company but I know Pipestone will reship for free any vaccines that arrive warm. I wouldn't use them. Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Here you go; that vaccine is made by Fort Dodge. Call them and ask if it is safe to use. Animal Health Products If you have any questions or comments about Fort Dodge Animal products, please call us at 1-800-685-5656. If they say no, then tell Fort Dodge what their distributer, Agri-Med, told you. Taking this tact should yield free replacment by Agri-Med if Fort Dodge says not to use it. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmetteabrakai Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I can tell you from personal expericnec as a drug rep for a pharmicutical co, that thos vaccines are tested at high tempratures and are most Likley still good. But I wouldn't use them That being said I would ask for, and expect, to get your money back or new vaccines. There is no excuse for it arriving hot, even in hot weather. when I worked for a Veetrinary distributor, I used to sell vaccicns in my terrritory ,Arizona all of it. Inadequate packaging was almost never the issue it was usualy the carrier who delivered it. I would report it to your delivery carrier, and the distributor. I knew the name of every driver for UPS, Fed Ex and Airborn on the routes that were constantly a problem for my clients. So don't put up with Hot Vaccines, they can and should arrive cold, at the very least cool. Andrea D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonf Posted August 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Thanks for all the advice, especially how to get in touch with the Mfg. It is a puzzlement as to how they got so warm. They were shipped in a styrofoam cooler, sealed with tape. Transit time was only 2 days. I have seen styrofoam coolers keep ordinary ice for a few days in warm weather. In all fairness, the Agri-Med rep offered to take them back. That is most likely what we will do and just get a refund. The shots can be obtained locally from a Farmer's Coop -- which is what I should have done in the first place. Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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