Guest Charles Torre Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Those that care probably already know, but just in case... The National Sheepdog Finals results are at http://www.usbcha.com/2002_Finals_info.htm Nursery is finished; check it out. Gotta love the internet. charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikw Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Wish I was there to see it. Barbara's second Nursery Championship. It is just wonderful and she needed that. I hope her run at the Finals with Zip will go equally well and who knows,she may do just as good. ------------------ Inci Willard Clearville,PA 814-784-3414 ikw@pennswoods.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikw Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 First day of the Finals and Barbara is leading with Zip, Ali is right behind with Bill. Both are out of '96 national Champion Ben with Ali. Dams are different. ------------------ Inci Willard Clearville,PA 814-784-3414 ikw@pennswoods.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workindogs Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Wow...2 Ben offspring leading. That IS impressive. A number of very strong contenders still to run. Has a handler ever won both Nursery and Open Finals in the same year? I wish I was there. Elizabeth [This message has been edited by workindogs (edited 11-13-2002).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikw Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Some came very close. Bill Berhow's Nick,after winning the Futurity,in the Finals and they were either 3rd or 4th.(I forgot) Dodie Green with Cord,won the Nursery and was in the top 20 in the Finals.May have been 18th place Stu Ligon with Nap,Reserve Nursery Champion and 6th in the Finals. Couple of other strong contenders are also out of Ben. Ali's Sweep and Stu's Nick (litternates as well as Bill). There are couple of more out of Ben at the Finals. It's beginning to look like I maybe able to make a mad dash down comes this Friday and hopefully catch the last 20 dogs runs. ------------------ Inci Willard Clearville,PA 814-784-3414 ikw@pennswoods.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaBluez Tess Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Don't forget last year: Scott Glen with Tess (6th in Nursery) and Fly (2nd in Finals) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikw Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Diane, I think Elizabeth was asking about same dog/handler teams not just the handlers with different dogs. The dogs I wrote about are the young dogs who ran in Nursery and the Finals within the same year. I forgot to add Bud Boudreau and Swael's run last year,ran and placed 10th (?) in the Nursery and 8th in the Finals. ------------------ Inci Willard Clearville,PA 814-784-3414 ikw@pennswoods.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workindogs Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Actually, I phrased my question about "handlers" rather than "dog/handler" teams....I thought it too far fetched for a Nursery dog to do both, however Inci has come up with an impressive list none the less. Elizabeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikw Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Oops,duh! Then the answer is no. However Angie Pickle won the Nursery with Sam and won the Finals with Sam,just a few years apart if that counts. So,Nick and Sam are the only dogs who won the Nursery and went on to become the National Champions few years later. Elizabeth, Most Nursery dogs do run Open and do qualify to run at the Nationals within the same year. One dog who was the Nursery Champion and was most likely to win the Finals died right before the Finals,that was Tommy Wilson's Cap. Whichever trials they entered,they placed first well ahead of others points wise. ------------------ Inci Willard Clearville,PA 814-784-3414 ikw@pennswoods.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaBluez Tess Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Inci, >>I think Elizabeth was asking about same dog/handler teams not just the handlers with different dogs<< This is what I read that Elizabeth wrote: >> Has a handler ever won both Nursery and Open Finals in the same year? << It doesn't say to me about the same dog/handler team, just about a handler who has ever won both Nursery and Finals.... And as far as I know no one in either of both scenarios above has done that.... Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaBluez Tess Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 Inci Looks like our answers crossed in cyberspace!!! About handlers/dogs question.....oops >> One dog who was the Nursery Champion and was most likely to win the Finals died right before the Finals,that was Tommy Wilson's Cap. << What happened? Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 Cap died at the Meeker trial. He did not overheat when he ran. He was fine after he ran. Later in the afternoon, Tommy found him dead in his crate. To my knowledge. am autopsy was not done. Speculation was heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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