LizBrown Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Hi all, I?m starting my first border collie, and I?m puzzled by what seems to me to be a schism in training philosophies. I borrowed a couple of books from the NEBCA library; both had been frequently recommended: Pope Robertson?s Anybody Can Do It, and E.B. Carpenter?s Basic Training For Sheepwork. What confuses me is that the training methods outlined in these books seem so fundamentally different from what I?ve seen at the two clinics I?ve attended (one with Scott Glen and one with the Knoxes), and from the work I?ve done in lessons. The training described in each of the books is very carefully plotted. The dog?s training begins away from the sheep, with a down, a stay, and a recall. When the dog is brought to the sheep, it is in strictly controlled situations, and each lesson has a clear agenda. What I?ve seen in clinics and lessons, on the other hand, seems much more improvisational; typically, the young dog is given her sheep and the handler begins to shape her responses. The lesson unfolds as it goes. Scott Glen warned me against doing much obedience work, and Jack Knox said that he prefers to start a young dog on sheep before he has a down on it. So, what?s going on? Has there been a major change in the way sheepdogs are being trained in the past decade or so? Or is the type of training that happens at clinics shaped by the nature of the clinic itself? (It would be hard, after all, to do any other kind of training with a dog and a handler you had never seen before and might never see again.) I?ve learned a lot from reading these boards; I?d love your input on this. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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