willow92 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Turk ABC 16612 (male, out of imp. Tosh ABC 9812) and Cass ABC 31914 (female, out of Cap ABC 9716) Mainly I am looking for a 3 or 4 generation pedigree on both, and a photo or other such as any trial, health or temperament info would be a bonus. thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Do a google search on the words -- heishman turk -- and you'll come up with something. Steve Heishman in VA had both of those dogs, bought them from the Kuykendalls, and bred them at least a couple of times. I'm sure they're both dead now, it's been years since i've heard anything about them. I do remember that Cass ended up hurt working cattle. They produced very black puppies, very little white on them. If you poke around and find Henry Kuykendall's website, there's a picture of Cap (sire of one them) on there in his reference sires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy V Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 The last of the Turk/Cass cross is now 9 yo. Burl, my avatar photo, is a pup of a bitch from the last breeding. You can notice how black he is, except for his chest and front paws. You can see a very short clip of Cass and Steve working set-out at the Bluegrass on the DVD, "From the Minds of a Champion" by Denise Wall, when watching the Scott Glen portion. (Please correct me if I butchered the title to the DVD. I can't for the life of me find my copy of it.) The two dogs were working sheep and cattle dogs -"turn-back" dogs, I think, though I really don't know what that means. Sorry I couldn't help more, though I'm curious about your interest in these two ancient and/or dead dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willow92 Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 The last of the Turk/Cass cross is now 9 yo. Burl, my avatar photo, is a grandson of a bitch from the last breeding. You can notice how black he is, except for his chest and front paws. You can see a very short clip of Cass and Steve working set-out at the Bluegrass on the DVD, "From the Minds of a Champion" by Denise Wall, when watching the Scott Glen portion. (Please correct me if I butchered the title to the DVD. I can't for the life of me find my copy of it.) The two dogs were working sheep and cattle dogs -"turn-back" dogs, I think, though I really don't know what that means. Sorry I couldn't help more, though I'm curious about your interest in these two ancient and/or dead dogs. Thanks both! I have a grand-daughter to both dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy V Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Well...Is she black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willow92 Posted June 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Well...Is she black? her sire (10 yrs old) is black with very little white just as you described. but my girl is actually a merle--but a dark one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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