Guest Penny Tose Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I'm Penny Tose. My expertise is in being a dog trialing version of the little engine that could. It took me years to move from novice wrecks to pro-novice dogs not listening ever to open dogs not listening ever and then finally to open dogs listening most of the time to all commands both correct and incorrect. I now keep about 75 sheep and usually read trial results from the top down instead of from the bottom up. Most people, including my friends and family, did not think my success (modest though it is by the standards of someone training and handling a Nick or a Nan or a Hannah) would be possible even if I had bought a trained dog, which I did not. My ineptitude teetered between cosmic and monumental. I had never been around sheep until I got my first border collie. Nevertheless, my dog Taylor (grandson of my first border collie) was 1999 Reserve Nursery Champion and made it into the top 20 in the 2001 National Finals. His littermate Jordan ran first that year in the opening 150 dog round of the National Finals. She is a well respected dog and has won several difficult and demanding trials over the years, including Woodbury's Powder River Classic in Wyoming and O'Donnells' in South Dakota. My first border collie was not registered at all. When I picked her out, I told the breeder to give me the puppy least likely to be a good working dog because all I wanted was a pet and her dogs worked cattle. She told her son, "Crawl under the porch and grab that puppy that always runs back under the house." The puppy, once grabbed, knew a good thing when she saw it, never whined once about leaving her littermates, and became outgoing. I thought she would never see a sheep, then one day I read a classified ad in the newspaper for stock dog classes. She was way too smart to heed to anything I shrieked while she was working, and it is possible that the breeder was right about her potential. However, like everyone else with a first dog, I relished believing that she would have been great if I had known what I was doing. I always wanted trainers to work her instead of doing it myself. It was because of this dog, her name was Dixie, that my husband and I moved to Montana and bought our first play farm. I bred Dixie and got Emily. Emily became the first dog to be registered on merit by the American Border Collie Association. Several years before that, Bill Berhow kindly agreed to breed his Tweed to Emily. From that litter, I kept Jordan and Taylor. I now have another generation, two dogs from Jordan's only litter, and my husband has a Taylor son. I just moved one of Jordan's sons to open and will move the other when I retire Taylor. When I started training Emily, I went to Roxanne Linderman in Belgrade, Montana. She said, "What are your goals?" "To win a dog trial," I said. Roxanne, who knew perfectly well I meant a novice dog trial, paused long enough to frame a tactful answer. She said, "Let's talk about achievable goals." I didn't have a clue about achievable goals, and this was after several years of lessons working Emily's dam. In sum, I think that if you haven't grown up around livestock (I don't mean to include horses...although that might help you, it didn't help me), the learning curve is steep and requires stubbornness. I have endless patience with people who know that working a dog once or twice a week at someone else's house usually means that it will take years and years longer than it otherwise might to become competent. I have no patience with instant experts (gosh, had a border collie two years) or for old timers who think they know everything just because they think they do and do some set out. Both are tiresome and reflect complacency, not hard work. Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pshanny Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Penny is a person that I have known almost from the start. She will admit with everyone, that she wasn't the most talented person when she started. But her determination and education with sheepdogs has made her a "contender" at any trial she attends. She can...and has...won many of the most difficult trials. She is a person that has a great perspective on starting out. She has helped many a "newbie" get on the right track, and if she doens't know the answer, she isn't afraid to admit it and ask someone else for help. Look for her to be a great mentor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brookcove Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Yea, Penny! You are one of my inspirations - hope I can stand more or less where you are today and tell a similiar story. Right now I'd be happy just to move up before I'm to old and stiff to walk to the shedding ring. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pipedream Farm Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 In sum, I think that if you haven't grown up around livestock ..... the learning curve is steep and requires stubbornness. From someone who feels they are finally making some headway up the steep side of the curve (no previous livestock experience), thanks for agreeing to be the Expert. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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