tucknjill Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Oh god Christine I may never be the same again..shiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Wall Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Not to change the subject away from Kenneth's mustache but: Oh yea, there was a whole lot of arm twisting going on there making you drink. You make it sound like we held you down and poured it down your throat. When in fact it was more like, better get yours before Denise finishes the bucket. Well, maybe I was a little more willing than I let on :cool: But I feel like I should add in my defense that this is the first time in all these years I've succumbed to these evil bringers-of-margaritas-to-trials people. People would be hard pressed to remember me ever imbibing at a trial before I'd bet. However, I figured if you're going to do it, by dingy do it up right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Denise to my way of thinking, your were the life of the party! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Denise to my way of thinking, your were the life of the party! I'm with Sam, especially when Wobin thought you might jump across the table at her. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Boy am I looking forward to being HOME this weekend!!! Our week has been insane. Took my commuting car in Monday because the throttle peddle was sticking down (at about 3000 rpms); of course it stopped sticking by the time I got it to the shop. The mechanic thought it might need a new throttle cable ($225 and it had to be ordered). Because the mechanic wasn't positive he wanted to see it if it the throttle was sticking again by the time I got near the shop; dropped the car off Tuesday morning. Mechanic confirmed it was the throttle cable. Went to get it and drive home and I could not get it out of gear (stick shift); the clutch went. Mechanic confirmed it (easy since it was still at the shop) and it would cost $1400. Bye bye car; we were already going to replace our '94 Saturn (215000 miles) this spring; I had narrowed my choices down to a Prius Hybrid or Jetta TDI wagon. Shortest wait I've heard for a Prius is 4 months; it's the Jetta then. Tuesday Renee came and got me at work (45min drive one way for her) then we sat in traffic for over an hour trying to head home, stopping by a VW dealer to look over their cars. Picked out one I liked, made sure I liked the seating position and asked them to figure out the monthly payments. Went home and discussed it. Wednesday after work I test drove the car and bought it. Now I have to dispose of the Saturn. Oh and just for Sam, it's silver (I know what's the most important thing about a car to Sam ). Did I say how much I'm looking forward to being home this weekend? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue R Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Don't you want to take a nice, long drive in the new car this weekend, Mark? By the way, talking about the life of a car, our daughter's 1993 Ford Escort Wagon finally died at over 250,000 miles - engine was still good but the rear struts came through the wheel wells into the baggage section! A wee bit of rust! That was our best car ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurie etc Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Hi Mark - well- speaking of cars, that's why I wasn't at the ABC Mag trial - what a bummer, I was really looking forward to it. The fuel pump went out on my van friday- had to have it towed in - the rental car was a brand new cloth seat Grand Prix - so I decided they probably wouldn't like me throwing 4 muddy BC's loose in the back seat. Some friends of mine got sued for $300 damages from a car rental in Texas after a sloppy agility trial week. The good news from the weekend is that I found a house to buy on 5 acres in Bunker Hill - so I'll finally be out of this townhouse and somewhere we can actually have a few sheep to practice with on a regular basis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 YooHoo! I'm happy for you and your house find. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted October 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 speaking of repairs, I called the camper place today...they cant figure out what is wrong with the heat as in its working... Eh Mark so what would possibly top color on the list of the things to look for in a car other than it go really really fast? I mean duh buddy, sometimes I really have to tell you everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipedream Farm Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 I mean duh buddy, sometimes I really have to tell you everything. they cant figure out what is wrong with the heat as in its working... Well BBBBuddy, perhaps there's nothing wrong with the heater; perhaps there's something wrong with the operator. HeHeHe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted October 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Are you calling Wobin stupid..that is really not very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Heyyyyyyy, i resemble that remark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordersprings Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 I just returned from Moultrie and Coppar Creek. I suggest that all handlers tell Steve McCall how nice it is to see a handler love his dog so much... After Steve got his shed (at Moultrie) he called his dog, patted Katch's head twice, then proceeded to gather the sheep and pen them. By our best guess, the two pats on the head cost him 2 points (1 point per pat). How dare a judge deduct points for petting your dog on the trial field. Steve ended in the money with his Shed, Pet, Pen. Although all of the handlers have great respect for Steve, no one else followed his lead by petting their dog before penning the sheep. It is unclear if that is because: 1) He was the only one paying attention at the handlers meeting and we all were instructed to Shed, Pet and then Pen. 2) No one else was so delighted with their shed that they wanted to provide such a public display of gratitude to their dog or 3) That Steve is the only handler with such a soft and emotional side that he could not contain his love and devotion to his loyal partner till he got back to his truck. It was indeed a touching a moment - one that we hope he never forgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted October 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 LOL Man word travels fast, I think I heard about that before he even got out of his truck from the trip home..Our hero! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgt Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hmmm... Sounds to me like the guy got off easy. Isn't touching your dog during the run normally worth a DQ? charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucknjill Posted October 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 I dunno, guess it depends on what you touch em with eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Presenting.... our hero's dog "Katch" - former magazine cover model. Unfortunately, he turned down the Border Quarterly magazine photo shoot shortly after this issue was released. His "15 minutes of fame" went straight to his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Did Steve *really* lose points for petting Katch? I'd never have even thought about losing points for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I'd heard that you can not touch your dog during a run and some judges will DQ for that, so points off wouldn't be all that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I've totally never heard anything like that. It just wouldn't have occured to me even. Live and learn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 I guess some could use it as a "training" tool. Or perhaps someone might pretend to pet their dog, but really pinch an ear and growl at them. I know that is far fetched, but I think that is where the premise comes from. Heck, maybe Steve thought his run was over and forgot he had to shed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordersprings Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 The real story is... The sheep were hard to single - Steve walked into the shedding ring and the sheep just split (singled) for him - so he took it by calling Katch in. He was so surprised and excited that he forgot that the task had changed from the day before where we ended with the shed and he proceeded to love all over his dog - it was cute. The sheep had walked towards the exhaust and the judge (Carol Anne) had to remind him that there was still a pen left. He gathered the sheep and had a nice pen. When we looked at his score, he had lost two points for his shed. His "friends" attributed the two points as one for each pat on the head. I believe the rules (ISDS) are that touching your dog is a DQ. This trial was kind of a "friendly". One dog left the course, went under the gate and into the water tub. The handler called the dog back onto the field and finished the task and made the finals (was not DQ'd and received a score for the run). So all in all - petting your dog after a successful shed is a far less crime than your dog leaving the course - and far cuter. And how many times do we all get to see Steve and Katch lovin' on one another in the shedding ring!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joan Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Originally posted by Valhalla:I'd heard that you can not touch your dog during a run and some judges will DQ for that, so points off wouldn't be all that bad. This reminds me of a recent conversation that I've been wondering about. A friend and I were watching a run at the ABC Magazine trial. The handler raised his stick to "assist" his dog in taking a flank. A lot of us do this in training, giving the dog some help with direction and motivation. You just raise the stick in the air and maybe lean that way. My friend said, "I always forget to do that when I'm running at a trial." I don't do that at a trial because I think of it as using the stick as a training aid, which is against the rules. Right? Or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fosher Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 In my book if a judge has to remind you that there's still work to do, your run is finished. Points off is a very nice way out of a situation that probably should have been a DQ or RT. Seriously, if you call your dog off, the run's over. If you forget what the course is, you lose. Anyone here ever drive the wrong panels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eileen Stein Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 Joan, I don't think there's any problem with "using your stick as a training aid." The rule you're probably thinking of is: A contestant shall not enter the trial field at any time with any kind of training device. The trial management, representative, or judge must disqualify a contestant if he enters the trial field with any such equipment, and all entry fees and/or premiums pertaining to said contestant shall be forfeited. Such devices include, but are not limited to, electronic collars, dummy or weighted collars, a leash or rope that is not detached before the dog is sent, or any device used to distract or cause pain to a dog while it is working. The judge has the right to inspect the dog for any violation to this rule. Since the crook or stick is accepted as a sheep handling device, this rule would not apply to it, and you can use it any way you want as long as you don't touch the sheep with it. Of course, sometimes it's counterproductive to use it to direct your dog, since your sheep may respond to its movement in a way you don't want. Actually, I don't think there's any rule that says you can't touch your dog during your run. I'd say the judge should DQ you for it if it appeared you were assisting the dog or abusing the dog, but I think it would be up to the judge. Petting the dog during the run is such a counterproductive and time-wasting thing to do that I think the question would very rarely arise. Sounds as if it didn't confer any advantage in this particular case, so a modest point deduction seems appropriate. Also sounds like none of the other handlers were aggrieved by it. I was at one of those casual, "friendly" trials recently, and it was an old-timey treat, I must say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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