blackacre Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 I see some familiar names are running for the board of directors. Care to share your platform, if any, with us? Near and dear to MY heart would be some consideration given to merging ABCA and USBCHA, but maybe you guys disagree or feel it would be a non-starter. (Charlie, for this I believe you need to remove the bucket.) A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Platform? Treated wood deck with a nice fridge for margarita fixings.... I'd be for considering a merger but honestly, would need to do lots of listening and thinking on it so i can't say i have a position on it. I will say i'm a big proponent of education of new owners and registrants, especially considering the huge base of non-trial/non-working-dog owners that make up ABCA members. I've had a few eye opening phone calls since my name and number came out on that ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordersprings Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hurray for education! (and Robin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackacre Posted August 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hey, thanks for answering. Not trying to put anyone on the spot, just offering the opportunity for candidates to speak. (I already voted for you, by the way, on the general premise that I think you'll do a good job.) Can you say what kind of phone calls? Is there a silent majority of non-working folks that feel their interests are not being served? Andrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgt Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Even though I'm just "filler" on the ballot, I've been getting lots of calls, too. And at odd hours - I think some people have forgotten about time zones. Mostly people (rightly) ask, "Who the hell are you?". Good question - I wish I knew the answer. Anyway, Andrea, I've gotten the impression that there is a silent majority of WORKING folks who feel their interests aren't being served. These people raise livestock and stockdogs and don't care a whit about the USBCHA, the National Finals or any of that kind of stuff. I don't think they are, like, radically disaffected. Just not that interested in all the trialing stuff. And, Robin: I like your stance on education. Can I steal it? charlie torre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Charlie, i bet you've had calls from some of the same folks i have. One wanted to ask some general questions about ABCA policies as they applied to him and was mostly just wanting to talk i think. Another wanted to just chat with the people on the list to have a basis to make up his mind. I don't think either of those were working people. Another was a cattledog guy and he was pretty anti-trial, probably the guy you're thinking of, more concerned that registration fees not be raised since "not everyone trials". I tried to point out that trials help in sorting out breeding stock but don't think i got my point across. Anyway, i don't think those folks represent any sort of majority but i really don't have anything to base that on. It was a nice reality check that there are lots of different types of "customers" of the ABCA though. A. - my gut says there probably is a silent majority of non-working people out there, that sort of only makes sense. I think ABCA does a fine job as a registry so i expect those needs are being met just fine. I think there's always room to improve on educating that group of people on the breed and breeding though. Oh yeah, and thanks for the vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Hi, I have a question about policies. Any comments on encouraging spay/neuter contracts to non-working homes? Perhaps that would limit the sport breeding. And encourage non working BC owners to get their dogs from working breeders. Thanks, Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 What I want to know is why I haven't gotten a ballot! How am I to know who's running, though I can guess who two of you are, if I don't have a ballot? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Julie - you should probably call ABCA and ask. I'd think you should have received it by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgt Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Julie: I haven't gotten mine either. But I moved recently and the mail has to be forwarded. Maybe the same goes for you? charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 You know, I suppose they could still have my old address. It was pointed out to me, though, that I can vote while I'm in Sturgis (why didn't I think of that?), but I think I'll give Patty a call/e-mail just to make sure she has my correct address. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katelynn & Gang Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Yeah, I didn't get a ballot either! But I am a yearly memeber. So I don't count, do I? Katelynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoofly Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Katelynn, you should have gotten one even if you're a yearly member. Most people are. I know i am. Maybe they went out at different times or something. I'd have thought they went all at the same time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloRiver Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 I think spay/neuter contracts would be a non-starter, considering you cannot evaluate breedworthiness until the dog is mature. However, NB (non-breeding or "limited") registration on pups sold to non-working homes is a viable alternative. That way, if the home decides to work their dog, or the dog is sold and turns out to be a fabulous working dog, the NB could be reversed by the breeder and the dog would not be lost to the gene pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 Thanks for the more viable idea Melanie, I understand that breedworthiness cannot be evaluated until a dog is mature. I just hope to seem some input on the idea of stopping overbreeding. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Katelynn, I e-mailed Patty and this is what she said: If you weren't a paid member before Jan. 1, 2005, then you are not eligible to vote. With my move, job change, etc., I didn't renew my membership until February, so I can't vote. If you don't know when you joined, you can contact Patty and she will check the date for you. abca@datasync.com J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katelynn & Gang Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Oh, okay. Thanks! I'll send her a note. Katelynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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