reploidphoenix Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 This same breeder that I never found the name of in NY is still selling puppies to a broker to sell in my area.. They have temperament issues from being reactive, scared, and aggressive. In a month, this is the 2nd round of puppies up for sale. I never recieved papers when I was told i would(bought him in April or may). Hes supposed to be abca registered. I'm afraid this may be a puppy mill. Anyone willing to find out for me since they refuse to give me any information? Heres the latest puppy for sale.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCStarkey Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 The ad includes the phrase "Message Storm Haven German Shepherd Dogs". Storm Haven German Shepherd Dogs has a Facebook page (link below), and the photo you posted for the Border Collie puppy for sale is posted on that page. The name Lorrie L Leickel - Koch is listed in the photo, and she lives in Leighton, PA . Is this the breeder or the broker that you mentioned? https://www.facebook.com/StormHavenGermanShepherdDogs/ nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reploidphoenix Posted November 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 No. She has the pup listed for a "friend". The friend is the broker that buys them from somewhere in ny. I was told I should just prob let it go, but it upsets me theyre spitting these pups out and selling so many when they seem to have temperament issues. They also say their abca registered, but no one seems to ever get papers in the mail as promised. Should I just let it go...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Elle Posted November 28, 2018 Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 What else would you do besides let it go? Currently, puppy mills are not illegal in the U.S. and there isn't anything you can do to shut it down, unless she has more dogs than are allowed by law in her area, or you can somehow prove extreme neglect or abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentleLake Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Fraud, however, is illegal. If you have anything in writing that you'd be getting registration papers you could probably take her to small claims court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleRanger Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 you could create a facebook page to try and put the facts out there about this breeder. you could add or follow everyone on the breeder's friends list and eventually, other people with issues will find you. This may be a tad on the stocker side, but hey, someone has to make a stand. If the page grew you could provide links to reputable breeders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranchhand Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 11/29/2018 at 9:41 AM, GentleLake said: Fraud, however, is illegal. If you have anything in writing that you'd be getting registration papers you could probably take her to small claims court. Would the ad stating “ABCA reg to approved home” be proof enough, going forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riika Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Ranchhand said: Would the ad stating “ABCA reg to approved home” be proof enough, going forward? Probably not. They can claim you weren’t an “approved home.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranchhand Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 @reploidphoenix - maybe contact the SPCA of that area in PA to run your concerns by them? They might give you some direction- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reploidphoenix Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Update! I finally got his papers in the mail today after 9 months. He looks very inbred, but probably not enough to be against regulations..? His father is also his grandfather..and same with other relatives on both sides of his family. I also got the papers, and the breeder is NOT in NY. They are in gettysburg PA. I'll do some research into them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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