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Hi Everybody!!

 

Just about 2 years ago we adopted this incredible dog named Panda. She was found wandering around in Pike county Kentucky. She was stray for 3-4 weeks. The Wandy is our nickname for her as Panda was already taken on the board.

 

Panda is a mutt and we are not positive what she is mixed with.... hoping we can get some ideas here.

 

Panda fluctuates between 55 and 60 lbs depending on the season. She loves to run.

and she loves to hunt. She is a chipmunk killing machine and is the worst enemy of any squirrel to cross her path. She killed a giant groundhog in our yard and managed to kill a skunk in my neighbors yard without getting sprayed.

 

We live in metro Detroit and she spends a lot of time on a chain in our yard but we go to our cabin up north a lot where she has close to 500 acres of wooded land to terrorize anything small and furry. When she goes for walks she pulls her 200 lb dad on his skateboard like a sled dog for about 2 miles round trip with minimal effort from dad.... he has to push the board a little bit but mostly its panda pulling him along. And she loves it.... she's a runner and loves to be put to work pulling dad.

 

So we think Panda is a border collie mixed with pointer. Someone suggested it and after looking at pictures we think this guy might have been right. Hoping some of you folks can help us decide.

 

She has the crouch.

And she points.

 

Welcome any opinions about what you guys think she is mixed with.

And any advice on where we can find another Panda.... we love her and want another.

 

Thanks

Aaron

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Welcome to the Boards.

 

Without seeing Panda's entire body in profile it's hard to guess. And it's hard to guess from photos or even seeing the dog in dog as it were.

 

That said, what I see in the pics provided says border collie to me. Some border collies point. It's a dog thing that was selected for and thus exaggerated in pointers (like herding was in border collies) but lots of dogs do it so pointing isn't necessarily an indication of a dog being part pointer.

 

I have a question for the guessers who'll come after me . . . is rough coat recessive in all breeds of dog or just some like border collies? IOW, does it always take 2 recessive genes for a rough coat? One reason I ask is that unless this dog is a mix of more than 2 breeds and she is indeed a mix of border collie and pointer, wouldn't she be a smooth coat?

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From what I can see, she isn't pointer at all. Some border collies, ACDs, and maybe some other herding dogs do something similar looking to a point, but isn't exactly a true point that working pointers do. Borders crouch because they are herding dogs and lift up a front paw as a "hesitation" to continue to move. But physically, she looks border collie to me and that's it.

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From what I can see, she isn't pointer at all. Some border collies, ACDs, and maybe some other herding dogs do something similar looking to a point, but isn't exactly a true point that working pointers do. Borders crouch because they are herding dogs and lift up a front paw as a "hesitation" to continue to move. But physically, she looks border collie to me and that's it.

This is a better description of what she does than i gave.

 

She's 55-60lbs.... does that happen in BC? You think she could be all BC?

We've been thinking she's mixed for years now.

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LauraV, I think it's a little hard to be as certain as you seem to be that she's a purebred based solely on the pictures we have here. I do agree that she looks like a border collie in them though.

 

55-60 lbs is on the large side for a female border collie, but not unheard of. And of course we can't see if she's lean or carrying extra weight from the pictures. Most of us here consider our dogs to be at their ideal weights if you can easily feel all the ribs without having to press in and to easily feel the spinal protuberances along the back.

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I am completely ignorant on this topic but if you told me your dog was a purebred border collie I wouldn't think twice. Of course, mixes can look like purebreds, all the usual caveats.

 

What I can say is that she has an absolutely beautiful face! Welcome to the forums. :)

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Thank you for the input so far.... we have an unhealthy love for Panda. We are obsessed. I seriously think she is the prettiest dog I've ever seen. We got her by accident through an adoption because we desperately wanted a dog. We didn't know much about these dogs. We are eager to learn about them and we are happy we discovered this site a few weeks ago. She quickly became our favorite breed ever.post-18423-0-59047700-1452129395_thumb.jpg

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Few more pics and a little more about Panda.

 

She is a maniac.

When she runs in the woods she is on a mission to rain down hell and fury on everything that gets in her way. She is Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now. She loves the smell of napalm in the morning.

 

She sometimes gets up to a mile or more away from us but comes right back as soon as we honk the horns on our mopeds we ride through the woods. She chases us on the mopeds and we believe we clock her at a solid 15+ miles an hour at a trot.... she's not even really trying at that point.

 

She digs chipmunks out of the ground and tears through any tree roots in her way. She also pulls dead logs out of her way. post-18423-0-35790000-1452131024_thumb.jpgpost-18423-0-49831200-1452130973_thumb.jpgpost-18423-0-56023200-1452130961_thumb.jpgpost-18423-0-90986000-1452130953_thumb.jpgpost-18423-0-42989400-1452130942_thumb.jpg

 

 

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No expertise to offer, but welcome! Just looking at her, if you told me she was a Border Collie I wouldn't call you a liar. I have one of those too: our pup has an unknown father, but just based on her looks no one would argue if I told them she was all Border Collie.

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I'd believe you if you said all border collie. I have one of those too ;)

 

Gabe has some pink on his nose as well. We're pretty sure he's a border collie/aussie mix but will never really know, and most people that see his body have a reaction of "well if you wanted to pass him off as purebred anything, you could get away with calling him a purebred border collie".

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If she's docked, I'd lean more towards some Aussie being thrown in there. People will sometimes dock border collies, but it's more common with BC/Aussie crosses. There's something about her back end that looks really Aussie to me. So my guess ranges from border collie to black-bi aussie and anything in between. :)

 

Border collies can definitely have pink noses. Our pup is really pink right now. Many fill in by adulthood, but it's not uncommon for them to keep some pink.

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