Donald McCaig Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/agriculture/farming/11569612/Are-you-hard-enough-to-survive-as-a-shepherd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentleLake Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Love it. Thanks for sharing. I'd seen a post with the original ad for the job. I have to admit part of me responded with a romantic yearning. It's always good to have a reality check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcv-border Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Excellent read. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalahundur Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Haha, they have paths. Softies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Smalahundur, on 30 Apr 2015 - 23:25, said: Haha, they have paths. Softies. Well maybe...but It's a very popular tourist area, so the Natural Trust (who own the land) build these paths to restrict soil erosion from human boots. Without them, the whole hillside will be destroyed. Some may consider that dealing with the public plus their dogs and litter on National Trust land requires an additional level of skill that many other shepherds (who also work in challenging terrains) don't have to cope with.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Why does one need to be"hard enough" rather than "tough enough" to be a shepherd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Why does one need to be"hard enough" rather than "tough enough" to be a shepherd? Agreed.. Blame the Telegraph headline writer (though he/she may have had been limited by the number of characters he/she could use) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simba Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 What's the problem with 'hard enough'? Just too colloquial? It's a bit weird to see a phrase written which is usually spoken, I'll agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 What's the problem with 'hard enough'? Just too colloquial? It's a bit weird to see a phrase written which is usually spoken, I'll agree. Well..to me the 2 words have a slightly different meaning To me, the way 'tough' is used in the main content of the artlcle implies that the successful applicant will need to have the confidence, determination and resilience to deal with difficult situations (both physical and emotional). However, if a man/woman were described as 'hard' then I would perceive this to imply a more extreme individual who may also lacked sympathy in his/her approach to life (...perhaps even approaching a level of callousness in their attitude towards things). I admit that the nuance between the 2 words may be very subtle...and perhaps the distinction is lost in translation across the Atlantic (or even between differenty parts of the UK!) JMO YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue R Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I'm with Maja and Maxi on the use of the work "hard". To me, that has negative connotations whereas "tough" means "strong" and "able to handle what is thrown at you without losing your humanity". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentleLake Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 perhaps the distinction is lost in translation across the Atlantic (or even between differenty parts of the UK!) That's what I assumed when I saw it, though I couldn't state it with any certainly since I don't live in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I hope a good and deserving person and their dog gets the job. I agree, I like tough. Glad they have the paths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Thank you for all the input on the "though" -"hard" pair; I was curious what you all thought. My feelings are similar to Maxi's that a hard person might lack empathy, whereas a shepherd has to be tough - strong to handle difficult situations, yet not be callous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalahundur Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Glad they have the paths. Of course it is nice they have paths. Just less though. Also not so hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon's girl Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I also like the connotations of the word "tough" better than the connotations of the word "hard." And I'm definitely not that tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemist Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 A fun article - thanks, Donald! "Tough" was the word used repeatedly in the article. I suspect the headline writer was counting letters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I suspect the headline writer was counting letters. Similar problem to subtitling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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