cjhutsenpiller Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 First of all let me start by saying what a great knowledge base this site has. I started lurking here around 6 months ago when I was looking for information on training techniques for my border collie Tucker. Tucker is now a little over a year old and over that year has seen a lot of controversy regarding his color. Tucker was purchased from a breeder here in Tennessee and both of his parents are the "text book" black and white. The other puppies in his litter vary anywhere from black & white to red to whatever Tucker is. I've had people tell me there is no way he is a border collie because he is not "colored right" and so on and so forth. I know he is a border collie - of that there is no question in my mind. However what I don't know is what color to call him so I thought I'd ask the experts here. What color is my dog? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tea Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I Know IKNOW IKNOW!!!!! He's a brown dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Billadeau Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Browse this site: Border Collie Museum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jvw Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Maybe Tri-Sable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cjhutsenpiller Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Browse this site: Border Collie Museum I will check that out! Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Coyote Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I;m going with the tri sable, too. Cool dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gideon's girl Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Definitely tri sable! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urge to herd Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 He's a flying tri sabe, very rare That shot of him in mid-jump is awesome. Ruth and Agent Gibbs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sue R Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'd call him "handsome". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
medic09 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Browse this site: Border Collie Museum Mark, thanks for putting that up! What an absolute joy that site is. I could spend hours there (will have to go back). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcnewe2 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'd call him "handsome". X2 Beautiful what ever color you call him! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shetlander Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Yes, whatever the official name of his coloring, he is gorgeous!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geonni banner Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If he were a German Shepherd Dog he would be called "wolf sable". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liz P Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Sable tri color. There are plenty of purebred Border Collies of that color. What breeder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Journey Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Saddleback Sable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
highway61 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Saddleback Sable. According to that Border Collie museum I was going to say the same. Beautiful boy and the mismatch eyes add even more color! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alligande Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 He's lovely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cjhutsenpiller Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Thanks for all the responses! I was looking at that link and I believe you all are correct. The only thing I'm confused about is it says in the article "these dogs, as we will see below, are born dark, or only have tan points when they are born, and the black receeds with age," Here is a picture of Tucker when he was a puppy. He was born tan and that turned to the black saddle he has now. Oh well I always knew he did everything backwards. Thanks for everyones help! Next person that asks what color he is will get a knowledgable answer instead of a "ummmmmmm." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GentleLake Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Maybe he's just sable, then? It would be interesting to send the pictures to Carole at the Border Collie Museum and see what she thinks. . . . ETA: I agree that he's very striking. I know all about the reasons not to breed for colors -- and agree with them wholeheartedly! -- but I've gotta admit that I do love to see them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cjhutsenpiller Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I was taking a look at this; http://www.bordercollies.es/colors.html This site references a seal Merle tricolor. Could he possibly be that? He was definitely not black as a puppy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liz P Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 No, one parent would have to be merle. There is a modifier gene I have seen in the rare litter that causes the dogs to get darker as they age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cjhutsenpiller Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 No, one parent would have to be merle. There is a modifier gene I have seen in the rare litter that causes the dogs to get darker as they age. Ahh understood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lewie'sMom Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 What a beautiful boy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinuosette Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I don't have the experience to help figure out the colour, but he's adorable! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PSmitty Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Very curious of who the breeder is, too, if you're willing to share. He's handsome and definitely unusually colored! I would have guessed saddleback sable, too, although his puppy pic totally throws me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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