Monkey Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 Does anyone know of a source for training vidoes? I didn't see a source on this thread. Sit, stay, come here, lie down, get in the damn bath tub before I have to come over there and get you, get the ball, get the brush, go to sleep, and go find mommy were easy commands. I'd like to get something on 'uniform' commands for herding activities. I don't have any sheep, but would still like to teach them the basics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 How do you go about teaching the herding commands without sheep? And further more why would you?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcNairnTurn Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 "How do you go about teaching the herding commands without sheep? And further more why would you??" Just in case someday there's a herd of sheep blocking the road you're trying to go down? Sheesh...why not? I don't have sheep at this time but it doesn't mean I won't. Why not teach them "that'll do"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckaycanada Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 You actually do need stock of some sort to teach your dog and yourself how to control the stock. The exceptions would include any commands which are not specific to herding (That'll Do, Here, Lie Down, Stand). Other wise, I'm afraid it's impossible to teach the flanks, the walk up, Get Out, Look Back, or more important, activities which require no commands at all like balance, pace, close-in comfort etc. Hope that helps. The rest of you should be more patient or we'll lose all our spectators. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paige1 Posted November 7, 2000 Report Share Posted November 7, 2000 I keep seeing remarks on "that'll do"... even in this thread.. what is this command for? I've never heard of it before. thanks! Paige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc_acd Posted November 7, 2000 Report Share Posted November 7, 2000 Hi Paige, The term "that'll do" is kinda like saying "you're done, good job..." or something like that. I'm sure someone can come up with a better explaination is...stupid, I use the word every day on my dogs and can't properly explain it! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckaycanada Posted November 7, 2000 Report Share Posted November 7, 2000 "That'll Do" functionally calls your dog off the sheep and back to your feet. "Here" means in a direct line even if it means coming through the sheep whereas "That'll Do" would mean the dog was finished and would come around the sheep. It has more of the "Finished what we are doing" connotation. The way to teach it however, is more like the obedience "Come" at the beginning. Later, the dog will realize the rest of it's meaning. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paige1 Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Hmmm... so could you also use "that'll do" like an "off" command to get your dogs to stop doing something, like your play session is over and you want them to put a toy down or drop something? Or is it strictly a modified "come?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckaycanada Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 For me it's a "come" with a tangible sense of finality. It makes more sense with stock because then it is a "come" that also means your dog is to break contact with the stock. The "here" is like a "come" but means "to my feet in a straight line but you are still working" Two different meanings. If I am walking through my corral to the hay barn and my young dog starts inching towards the sheep, I tell him "That'll Do". If I want my dog to come towards me before asking him to take a flank while teaching the drive, I'll tell him "Here". I'm not sure if that makes sense. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted November 25, 2000 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2000 I was actually looking for a way to keep my girlfriend in line . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle York Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 I use "that'll do" to mean, "Stop whatever you are doing, now." It could be for excessive barking. It could mean I want you to stop tugging the leash now, or it could mean this herding session or training session is over and the dog is allowed to take it's focus off the sheep or off of me if we are working obedience or agility. I'll say - "That'll do - here." to get the dog to leave the sheep and come to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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