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poor thing can hardly walk..she limps heavily one one leg..then stops to give that leg a rest and heavily limps on the other. she was attacked by Electra. Electra is spending the day by herself in the bathroom, she is fine..Misty didnt even attack back, Electra just flipped around, did this damage to her legs before grabbing her by the scruff and dragging her into another room, where I managed to catch up to them and beat Electra off of Misty :D I dunno what I am going to do with that dog :rolleyes: poor Misty, I am not 100% sure that she is OK at this point :D

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I would seriously consider a vet visit if I were you, particularly since you say that you are already not sure if she is alright. Best wishes for a quick recovery for Misty.

 

Not being emotionally involved in this myself, I'd have serious concerns about Electra's place in your animal family with this sort of behavior. Has anything like it happened before? Do you have any idea what triggered it? Has she ever shown problem behavior towards Misty (or any of your other dogs)? I'm not meaning to be critical - I have issues between two of my dogs and do not have the situation under the kind of control I would like, and so am relying a bit on management to avoid confrontation.

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Wow , thats really a scary situation. I hope Misty's ok.

A vet visit and a complete exam is worth the money for peace of mind. If Misty is limping badly , it may be more then superficial wounds. There may be muscle damage . If you wait till tomorrow , she will be swollen and be in more pain. At least if you go today , you can get some meds for her if the vet deems it necessary . The vet may also tell you to ice some areas to prevent swelling , so its not as painful for Misty.

 

If she were mine , I would take her in.. Call me worrysome, but peace of mind is best and so is a good nights sleep. :rolleyes:

 

Good vibes coming your way for Misty and for you border_collie_crazy . :D

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Electra has recently started doing this type of thing regularly, although this is by far the worst. she is getting a full medical work up..just waiting for the rest of the results, she is getting spayed once those results are back and I have recently started some behaviour modification with her as well, so while its certainly not under control right now, I am doing everything I can to try to get it under control. I am managing it in the meantime..this only happened because my friend(who should know better) showed uo at my house unannounced and just walked in, the frenzie(which I KNOW sets her off) well..it set her off. had my friend called or texted me before walking in like she normally does, then I could have had her under control in the first place!

 

she seems to be doing OK now other then hurting a lot. she is sleeping quitely beside me ATM. I am keeping an eye on things though, and she will get vet care if it starts to look like she is going to need it

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Yes, I have seen dogs that would otherwise be just fine but, in the frenzy of an exciting or stimulating moment, do things that are problematic.

 

I hope Misty will be okay and that you are able to work with Electra's problems. In the meantime, could you keep them separated in different parts of the house with a baby gate to avoid another situation like this one?

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I have some dogs like that, I manage them with close monitoring. It's never gotten better maybe evened out a bit and I'm sure it'd get worse if I allowed it to.

 

Some dogs just aren't meant to be large pack animals. The ones I have issues with aren't dogs I'm willing to even think of rehoming so it's strict management for us.

 

I'd sure be getting her spayed, it did calm Raven down a bit, didn't cure her issues but at least she didn't suffer from hormone fluxs which would make things worse.

 

Hope Misty is feeling better.

Unfortunately for the dogs that get picked on here, they've only gotten worse and will slink around if they think something might happen, which makes it worse as the picker thinks they're asking for it. Like wearing a kick me sign. One of the reasons I won't get another male puppy and I only bring in puppies to the pack, they seem to work into things better than trying to work in young adults or grown dogs.

 

Good luck

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I'd get Misty on some antibiotics, dog bites usually always get infected. Or at least here they do, luckely puncture wouds are few and far between here.

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I too worry about Misty - I think at the least she might need to be on antibiotics if she has multiple puncture wounds. I have had dogs that don't get along and the bitches by far are the worst. Usually, when they go for the legs they are intent on doing serious damage and even killing the other dog. The fact that there is so little bite inhibition is worrisome. Is Misty and older dog? A senior? That can make a difference. I think you might have to closely monitor Electra around her always. Poor Misty :rolleyes:

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The fact that there is so little bite inhibition is worrisome.

Yes I never thought of it that way. Mick NEVER breaks skin on any dog he has attacked, it's more bullying than going after a dog to do damage. Now he's had his skin broken but it's more his fault for picking the wrong dog to try and bully. Even then he's not all out fighting cause I've never seen blood drawn on anyone else but him.

 

But when my bitches get in a brawl, it's way more out of control. Still rarely ever is there blood or broken skin.

I know Electra is a way bigger dog but shouldn't matter, she shouldn't be going for blood.

I'm sorry, I wish you might think about rehoming Electra (I know Misty is your older dog) just to keep both them safe. It's not an easy choice but once done the peace is amazing.

 

Did you get Misty on some anitbiotics? I keep some around so I don't have to rush off to the vet for issues that I can easily treat myself but again, this sounds like they're needed for this case. If you go to Terrimans web site you can find links to places you can buy antibiotics without a script off the internet. Not bad pricing, if you look hard enough.

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I know Electra is a way bigger dog but shouldn't matter

 

eh? Electra is my Duck Toller, she is 4 years old, 30lbs and 17" tall..Misty is an 18", 35lb, 7 year old BC.

 

the only thing that bothered me about the fight was that she grabbed Mistys neck and dragged her..THAT bothered me a LOT. the fact that she drew blood, honestly doesnt bug me in the slightest..my pack aint exactly love at first site lol, trust me if I rehomed every dog that attacked like Electra did yesterday..I would have no dogs! I have most of the issues ironed out now...Rusty used to attack Elecra on sight and he was out to kill her..they are best friends now, they get upset when seperated. Ripley and Rusty..wow the injurys..lets see..split cheek..sliced lip, slit eye lids. etc.. they crate and eat side by side now. Ladybug and Misty...a whole lotta injuries similer to the pics above..just not as many bites at once..they were kind enough to spread them out over 3 or 4 days lol, they like to share the dog bed now. the list goes on...those are just the most recent. everyone is now getting along, the only issue I am currently having is Electra attacking the nearest dog in various situations, so I am now working on her, she is the final loose end to tie up, and she is not even remotly as bad as the others have been!

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I knew Electra was a duck toller but guess I didn't know they were that small, I was thinking more sm. lab or golden size.

 

That sure is allot of bloody fights you guys have had. And I thought I had it rough with one bully.

Not sure what to think about that.... but glad Misty is doing better.

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That's good news ! I'm glad to hear it ! Hope all is well in your household.

 

It's a tough to have two dogs who will go at it . I had to rehome one years ago because of it.

And it wasnt easy emotionally but I happen to be in the right place at the right time when the last fight erupted. I was able to rehome her with a great person who I knew from agility. She has a fabulous active home where she can be "The Queen". :rolleyes:

 

You had mentioned you had a handle on them and knew what would set them off and how to avoid the fights . So hopefully when your friends come over , they remember to call first. Its a hard situation and I hope you and Misty dont ever go thru that again. Its a really tough call to have to rehome a dog, but its for the best sometimes.

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well imagine my suprise when I got an e-mail from Electra's breeder telling me someone from this board e-mailed her and "informed" her about this :rolleyes: seriously? I was already in contact with her for a seperate issue, if I felt this was serious I would let her know myself without random strangers taking it upon themselves to get involved in things that have nothing to do with them. :D

 

all my dogs are doing fine now BTW, and that fight could have been a whole lot worse had I not already started removing the "hotheads" from the group the moment the dogs ran to the door, the entire situation was a fight waiting to happen.

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well imagine my suprise when I got an e-mail from Electra's breeder telling me someone from this board e-mailed her and "informed" her about this :rolleyes: seriously? I was already in contact with her for a seperate issue, if I felt this was serious I would let her know myself without random strangers taking it upon themselves to get involved in things that have nothing to do with them. :D

well I agree it's surprising (how do they know Electra's breeder?) but that's a risk you run when you decide to give out so much information to a bunch of random strangers...

 

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Are you dogs all rescues with past issues?

 

yes and no lol, I have 7 dogs:

Happy is from a questionable breeder, who I found out later, has several aggressive dogs in her pedigree, including a littermate who was declared a dangerous dog!

 

Misty is from a ranch, she is a good dog, not a mean bone her her body, but she has dominance issues with other dogs(very submissive around all humans though)

 

Electra is a Toller from a breeder who got her from another breeder, she was a showdog on co-ownership. I got her when she was 6 months. her "issues" if you can call it that started only recently.

 

Ladybug is a 13 year old large mutt who was abandoned in the streets in '08, I dont know her history, just that she is a hot head and has to be kept in check.

 

Rusty is a terrier who was given to me by his previous owners when they were unable to keep him, he was 4 years old and intact he had a nasty streak and I actually rehomed him because of it..but he was returned to me and apperntly took the re-homing as one heck of a "correction" because that was just about a year ago and he has avoided all fights ever since.

 

Perky is a mix we adopted about 9 year ago from the HS when she was 1 or 2, she's not so bad anymore, but she could be nasty when she was younger!

 

Ripley is a small mix we adopted form the HS at 8 months old..by that age he had already been through 2 homes before being dumped, he's origanaly from a petstore.

 

so yes I have a mixed bag of nuts in my house lol unless I figer the situation is truly dire, I will NOT give up on a dog. I have rehomed only 1 dog in the past, Shadow, who lived with my BFFs grandma till she died at 14 years old, rehomed because the dogfights were so severe I feared for her life. I am not counting Blair because he was not my dog, so it wasnt my call.

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