Jeanne Joy Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 From New Zealand: Silver Fern Farms - New Zealand - under pressure from AR groups: http://tinyurl.com/ykpf3ee Tesco Tells Farm to Stop Using Sheepdogs: http://tinyurl.com/cab95q NZ Shepherds stop using dogs - stresses lambs: http://tinyurl.com/dm64jh New Zealand's Sheepdogs Under Threat: http://tinyurl.com/ygfxmhl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertranger Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 More BS fromt he local media. I suggest they place adverts for people who can do the job a sheepdog does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geonni banner Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Here's someone else's opinion. (Not mine, though I do agree with some of what is said.) There is a interesting comment following. http://www.buckeyeag.com/blogs/index.php/2...ss-sheep?blog=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalahundur Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I have some years of experience rounding up free range sheep here in Iceland. Though things are changing dogs haven´t been used as much as you´d expect. And I can tell you it´s the people that stress the the sheep most, sometimes in a really bad way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eileen Stein Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 This is what I got from the newspaper account: Tesco was adamant that one of its largest suppliers in New Zealand, Silver Fern Farms in Fairton, should stop using dogs to herd sheep into the abattoir. . . .[silver Fern Farms] was visited by Tesco buyers earlier this year, who were "upset" at seeing the dogs "running riot", according to a spokesman for the supermarket. . . . Tesco stood by its decision. "We don't have a problem with sheep dogs, but we need to make sure they move the sheep in a considerate manner, so they don't stress the sheep out," said a spokesman. [Emphasis added] I guess it's hard for me to see how you go from this to "Sheepdogs herding a flock may be a familiar farmyard scene, but it could soon be confined to the past if bosses at Tesco have their way." Or even how "pressure from AR groups" fits in. Isn't it at least as likely that quality of the meat was the buyers' main concern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 It is illegal in Switzerland to use herding dogs, like BCs. Nobody herds sheep with BCs there Maja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geonni banner Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 It is illegal in Switzerland to use herding dogs, like BCs. Nobody herds sheep with BCs there Maja Odd... And I always thought the Swiss were a pretty smart bunch. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 You can't get it right all the time . Maja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippin's person Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 It is illegal in Switzerland to use herding dogs, like BCs. Nobody herds sheep with BCs there Maja Are you sure? Swiss Sheep Dog Society There are links to next weekend's Swiss Open Finals as well as recent Open Finals. Under the "Regionalgruppen" there are also links to sheepdog trainers throughout Switzerland. Two Swiss teams appear in the World of Sheepdogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Are you sure? Swiss Sheep Dog Society There are links to next weekend's Swiss Open Finals as well as recent Open Finals. Under the "Regionalgruppen" there are also links to sheepdog trainers throughout Switzerland. Two Swiss teams appear in the World of Sheepdogs. Well, I stand corrected. I will have to talk to my source who has lived in Switzerland for many years (starting something like: Hi, I have just made an idiot of myself thanks to your information ) . Maja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine R. Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Are you sure? Swiss Sheep Dog Society There are links to next weekend's Swiss Open Finals as well as recent Open Finals. Under the "Regionalgruppen" there are also links to sheepdog trainers throughout Switzerland. Two Swiss teams appear in the World of Sheepdogs. A swiss Handler (Urs Imhof) won the European Championship this year in August (in Liglet, France) And last year the European Championship was held in Switzerland. Greetings from Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geonni banner Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 oh good... I was really worried there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald McCaig Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Dear Doggers, Among dog owners, there is a fairly small but vocal nexus that feel that Animal RIghts activists intend to "take away our dogs". Call them "Worried". They seize on every scrap of evidence to confirm and urge this theory. And, if the thirty or forty most extreme Animal Rights activists numbered thirty or forty million and had more political power than Mao's communist party, we less worried might have something to worry about. Until that day - the "worried" try to make others "worried" or, better, very very afraid. Tesco (a grocery chain) told one of its supplier farms not to use sheepdogs to move slaughter ewes into the abatoir (slaughterhouse). Why? Tesco is - far as I can tell - as concerned about Animal Rights as Walmart. Since Tesco is in business to sell meat, my guess is because the dogs at this particular farm bit and charged and carried on pushing sheep through poorly designed facilities so that carcasses were pumped full of adrenalin (neither good, tasty, nor saleable. Can sheepdogs be badly handled? Er . . .yep. Is that probably what happened here? Without more information than the sensational press reports, that'd be my guess. Are they coming for our sheepdogs? Spare me. Donald McCaig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloria Atwater Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Well, darn you, Mr. McCaig, for derailing a perfectly good panic kerfluffle with common sense. ~ Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maja Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I do apologize for the misinformation. It was from a person whom I trusted to be reliable, and that's why I repeated it on an open forum, I usually try to be reliable and not repeat what I am not sure about. Perhaps there was some miscommunication involved. I will ask her to explain next time we meet (maybe take my shotgun with me too ) . Maja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dal & Mad's Mom Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 This is what I got from the newspaper account: Tesco was adamant that one of its largest suppliers in New Zealand, Silver Fern Farms in Fairton, should stop using dogs to herd sheep into the abattoir. . . .[silver Fern Farms] was visited by Tesco buyers earlier this year, who were "upset" at seeing the dogs "running riot", according to a spokesman for the supermarket. . . . Tesco stood by its decision. "We don't have a problem with sheep dogs, but we need to make sure they move the sheep in a considerate manner, so they don't stress the sheep out," said a spokesman. [Emphasis added] I guess it's hard for me to see how you go from this to "Sheepdogs herding a flock may be a familiar farmyard scene, but it could soon be confined to the past if bosses at Tesco have their way." Or even how "pressure from AR groups" fits in. Isn't it at least as likely that quality of the meat was the buyers' main concern? I was just watching Ramseys kitchen nightmares where the resturant was buying lamb at tesco and said that they injected it with something numbered that I didnt catch to preserve it. I would think a dog causing stress would be less than processing chemicals in the meats in affecting meat and taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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