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Very cute. The term bitch sounds so archaic. I've heard the word dam used before, which just sounds so much more appropriate.

 

Tim

 

The thing is, a dam is a dog with pups, a mother dog. A bitch is a female dog, with or without pups, spayed or in tact, a pup or old dog -- if it's female, then it's a bitch.

 

And a male dog? --- a dog.

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Very cute. The term bitch sounds so archaic. I've heard the word dam used before, which just sounds so much more appropriate.

 

Tim

 

Dam isn't the same as bitch though. A bitch is any female dog whereas a dam is a mother dog. Dam is the female equivalent to sire. Not all dogs are sires, but all sires are dogs.

 

ETA: Cow can also be used as an insult. Honestly I think I'd rather be called a bitch than a cow.

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This kinda reminds me of the e-mail I got from someone telling me that it was derogatory to refer to my goats as Billies and Nannies.

 

Just thinking about the soap in the mouth deal, anyone get the funky taste in their mouth when they think of getting their mouth wash out with soap? And mom claims she never did it.... Well, that's the feeling I get when I think of the term Bitch. Isn't that classical conditioning, kinda wonder if that is why some are very put off by the term, they have been conditioned to avoid it. If that is the case, would'nt it take alot to desensitize them/us to the term?

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kids in school can be mean and occasionally will use derogitory names, so I advised my daughter (now 15) to reply this way "Thats right Im the ALPHA bitch and dont the rest of you dogs forget it" when you turn something thats ment as a negative into a postive it shuts them up right quick

 

Pat, knowing your daughter... :rolleyes::D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

 

I myself prefer to take the term "bitch" as a compliment.

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I don't know what's wrong with me. "Bitch" doesn't bother me whether it's used with regard to canines or humans. In fact, it's a verb, too, right? :rolleyes:

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I don't like being called a bitch but I like being called bitchin. :rolleyes:

 

It honestly doesn't bug me, particularly in canine context.

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I get that is refers to a female dog

 

No, it doesn't. :rolleyes: "Female dog" is an oxymoron. A "dog" is a male Canis familiaris; a "bitch" is the proper term for a female of the species. Unless we're talking about hounds. Then you can get away with "gyp" when referring to a a female hound and a "dog" or "dog hound" when referring to the male.

 

Sorry. It's a twitch I have. I can't stand the term "female dog." It's just wrong. It's like saying "female man." Which in some archaic sense might be correct (if by "man" you meant "humankind") but it sounds nonsensical.

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There's a great line in the movie "The Women" directed by George Cukor in 1939. It's spoken by Joan Crawford playing Crystal Allen:

 

"There's a name for you ladies, but it isn't spoken in polite society...outside of a kennel"

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It really doesn't bother me in any context. Maybe it is my Jersey trucker mouth! I'm 30, but I don't think age matters in this case.

 

I've got dogs and bitches. I'm a bitch. My husband bitches at me when I'm being a bitch. Sometimes I'm bitchin' and that's a good thing. Sometimes I get tired of bitchy attitudes. Sometimes I like to ditch the men and hang with my bitches. And so on...

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I agree with you Tim, I don't like the word, and would never use it myself, but when I hear it associated with dogs I just go with it. I prefer to call mine a female, but she really acts like a b*tch so if anybody were to call her that I wouldn't be too mad.

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Just for shits & giggles, I'll throw out my architect bro-in-law's term for something great:

 

Bitchin' kitchen addition!

 

Yeah, he's a geek.

 

Outside of referring to a canine bitch, I usually use the term to mean something is tough, or it sucks to be doing it, as in, "This is a real bitch of a job"

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No, it doesn't. :rolleyes: "Female dog" is an oxymoron. A "dog" is a male Canis familiaris; a "bitch" is the proper term for a female of the species. Unless we're talking about hounds. Then you can get away with "gyp" when referring to a a female hound and a "dog" or "dog hound" when referring to the male.

 

Sorry. It's a twitch I have. I can't stand the term "female dog." It's just wrong. It's like saying "female man." Which in some archaic sense might be correct (if by "man" you meant "humankind") but it sounds nonsensical.

 

 

Right!

 

How many times have you heard someone say bird feathers? What else has feathers?

Or hot water heater... If it's hot why do you need a heater?

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Or hot water heater... If it's hot why do you need a heater

 

On Man...my DH's passion is to "bitch" when I call it a hot water heater. yea yea yea...whatever..

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Very cute. The term bitch sounds so archaic. I've heard the word dam used before, which just sounds so much more appropriate.

 

Tim

 

It only sounds archaic if you're used to it being used derogatory. Bitch was practically unheard of in the house I grew up in (nobody swore and all canines were dogs) I wouldn't use it in a situation were I was pretty sure it would be misunderstood, but I have no trouble using it when describing a female canine. It also doesn't bother me in a situation where the word is used as more of a descriptive term rather than a derogatory one, even though it's a term I personally would not use.

 

As to using dam instead, I have 2 bitches but neither will ever be a dam :rolleyes:

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I've got dogs and bitches. I'm a bitch. My husband bitches at me when I'm being a bitch. Sometimes I'm bitchin' and that's a good thing. Sometimes I get tired of bitchy attitudes. Sometimes I like to ditch the men and hang with my bitches. And so on...

 

Yeah! :rolleyes:

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I do wish there were some derogatory name for a male person. My husband claims that "bastard" counts. But that is just a slur on a male's mother.

 

Years ago, we had some "shall we say odd" next-door neighbors. The parent worked nights; there were six kids: two older teenage boys, a mid-teen girl, a pre-teen boy, and two elementary-school boys. If one was not in the daily police report, another was. And they all had family fights before the parents left for work - around midnight. Under our windows. In a small village where houses were close and open windows were our air-conditioning. One evening, Mom and second son had a major screaming fight. He took off down the sidewalk. She yelled after him, "You G**d*** son of a bitch. Lying in bed, having given up on sleeping, we looked at each other and said, in unison, "Well, she should know."

 

That said, My daughter, granddaughter, step-granddaughter, Fergie, and I do the Komen Race for the Cure. I'm made purple T-shirts for us with our unofficial team name in pink : Maiden Mother Crone" (what we each are is in full caps0. You can guess which I am. And, no, it is not an insult. The original meaning, and the one we use, means the wise woman: the older and experienced person. I also have a purple ribbon that goes on Fergie's leash (she is a paid registered "runner") with pink writing that says BITCH. My daughter says I should make a new one that says bITch because Ferg has been spayed for 13 years.

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I do wish there were some derogatory name for a male person. My husband claims that "bastard" counts. But that is just a slur on a male's mother.

 

There is one "son of a bitch"

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There is one "son of a bitch"

 

Nah. Still refers to the mother. Doesn't count.

 

I think the closest we come to a derogatory name for male persons are those that refer to the male appendage. But they're so darn proud of those. :rolleyes: Is that derogatory, really?

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Manwitchtude. Man with bitch attitude.

 

Nope. Still refers to him as being like a woman. It's the female reference that's insulting.

 

I don't think reference to body parts counts, either. We need something that refers to behavior. Something that is one's choice.

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While bitch has been used to denigrate a woman, both "dog" and "cur" (often with "dirty") have both been used to denigrate a man. Why comparing people with dogs should be so bad is something to ponder. I've usually found that the average dog compares favorably with the average human...

 

Happy Halloween everybody!

 

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Right!

 

How many times have you heard someone say bird feathers? What else has feathers?

Or hot water heater... If it's hot why do you need a heater?

Or tuna fish! :rolleyes:

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