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I do have a question: I don't do herding, I do agility, and I definitely dont breed. But how does one validate a working parent when they have no knowlege of working dogs? I can be told by a breeder that this pup is out of an open trial dog only to turn out much different. Or I can be told the parents work on the farm bringing in dairy cattle. I dont know what it means AT ALL. However, I believe in supporting the breeder that works on improving the breed. I also do not want to mention the breeder's names or dogs names on here, as there can be flaming that occurs. Trials in my area start at 5+ hrs away. So are their tricks/methods of telling if the breeder is being honest about a working dogs ability?

While i'd love to TRY herding, right now in my life its not feasible, and I adore this breed way to much to skip on to another.

I dont see why I cant give a pet home to a pup from a litter that just isn't cast as herding potential. And I do know about rescues, but I am very interested in ways of validating someones claim of a working dam/sire!

I am new to the boards- so I've not yet got the hang of researching the info on here. Links are more than welcome.

Shaneen

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The USBCHA has a points lists (sheep and cattle); dogs that have placed in the top 20% of USBCHA sanctioned trials. If a dog can place (top 20%) a couple of times in different open trials you can be reasonably assured the dog can work stock more than just gathering the stock from the field or working in a pen.

 

For farm dogs someone who knows what they are looking at will need to see the dog work.

 

Mark

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For farm dogs someone who knows what they are looking at will need to see the dog work.

Or know (of) the farmer/rancher and his/her reputation as regards working dogs...

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Or know (of) the farmer/rancher and his/her reputation as regards working dogs...

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Agreed (depending upon the scale used to measure the reputation).

For example, the USBCHA scale is significantly higher than the AKC scale.

A reputation using dogs to manage range ewes on federal lands will be significantly different than a reputation for using working dogs to manage sheep on an eastern farm selling 4H lambs.

 

How will a novice know if the reputation is deserved?

How will the novice know what scale was used to measure the reputation?

 

Mark

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