Brad Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Hi, I'm having a discussion over high value treats, and I've suggested using roast (insert meat of choice) as a bribe to get a dog over an issue. The other person is warning of pancreatic problem caused by these type of foods. I stated that I'm only recommending an occasional "bribe", not a staple diet. My question is this; Can roasted meat be a cause of pancreatic problems, even in very small amounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BustopherJones Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 You may want to visit this link: Pancreatitis In Dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks for the link. So the way I understand it, fat is not normally considered the cause of pacreatitis in healthy dogs, but rather should be avoided in dogs already suffering from a diseased pancreas. so using white meat from a roast chicken is acceptable as a high value treat for my dog? The way I see it, many people use chicken(or other meat) in raw diets, and therefore in my mind, a cooked chicken is the same as a raw chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 The way I see it, many people use chicken(or other meat) in raw diets, and therefore in my mind, a cooked chicken is the same as a raw chicken. It's not exactly the same, but I still don't hesitate to use cooked chicken as a high value treat for my dogs. If your dog is healthy, it shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks Kristine. Yes, I guess it's not exactly the same, I'm sure cooking modifies the fat structure, and I'm not condoning feeding cooked chicken everyday, but as a bribe to get over a stubborn challenge, I figured it was ok. This other person is trying to have me believe that even a small amount of cooked meat will give my (or any) dog pancreatitis. I just wanted to hear from others, and although I'm new on this board, I see a lot of passionate people that are likely to tell me the way it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks Kristine. Yes, I guess it's not exactly the same, I'm sure cooking modifies the fat structure, and I'm not condoning feeding cooked chicken everyday, but as a bribe to get over a stubborn challenge, I figured it was ok. This other person is trying to have me believe that even a small amount of cooked meat will give my (or any) dog pancreatitis. I just wanted to hear from others, and although I'm new on this board, I see a lot of passionate people that are likely to tell me the way it is I've definitely given my dogs cooked chicken as training treats (I don't go in for bribes myself, but I do entirely reward based training, so I use a lot of training treats) for years and none have pancreatitis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BustopherJones Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I've definitely given my dogs cooked chicken as training treats I have also given my dogs cooked chicken on occasion (as well as steak); but it has always been baked, not roasted or fried. I did not want to offer advice to the OP based on personal experience, and instead referenced an authoriatative site; on a personal basis, I would only observe that my vet recommends against fried foods for dogs, and instead perfers baked or grilled (with no seasonings added). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms.DaisyDuke Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I'd be one to ask why on earth a baked chicken breast (as a training treat) would be worse for your dog than highly processed kibble (or store bought types of training treats) that has ingredients you can't even pronounce! But then again, some people think Cheeze Whiz is good for you too! I use baked liver and baked chicken on a regular basis when training in a specifically stressful situation, so like others have said, if your dog is in good shape, I wouldn't loose sleep over it. I would just bake the meat plain in the oven with no extra cooking oil or anything added to it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandra s. Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I used raw ground beef from the supermarket when Kessie was terrified of trains and I wanted to get her to tolerate train rides again...it was yucky (and probably stranger than I'm aware of ) but it worked! But I think roasted chicken would be fine. In fact, I think most things are just fine in such small amounts (with some exceptions of course). I certainly don't worry about letting them clean out then pan after frying* some veggies for myself. ETA: *I have no idea at which point "roasting" turns into "frying" in English! I let the dogs clean the pan after ...well, making stuff crisp and tasty, which involves a thin coating of oil on the pan bottom. If I had something swimming in fat, like some people make chips/french fries, then I wouldn't let them have that all at once. It would give them the runs anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I guess a quick clarification, I meant roasted, not fried. Wrong title Thanks everyone for your replies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BustopherJones Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I meant roasted If by "roasted" you mean rotisserie roasted, or roasted on a porous tray in a roasting pan, I would see no harm in that. I would be hesitant, however, to serve Annie roasted chicken that sat in the bottom of a roasting pan in contact with the chicken fat; but then again, that's just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silhouettestable Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Personal experience speaking here, I feed lots of chicken to my dogs with absolutely no problem. When they're sledding I often have roast chicken for dinner just so I have the leftovers for the dogs. I feed them bits as a treat but also boil up all the leftovers into a soup for the dogs. Usually strain off the broth and fat and give them that to drink at the races (they'll drink more of that than plain water and need to stay hydrated). When they get home they get the meat (including skin/fat/gristle/everything except bone) in with their kibble. I also give them any/all other kinds of meat scraps and gravy we have leftover (plus they love veggies). I think dogs with a less active life style would be less likely to tolerate it the same, but generally mushers seem to feed lots of extra meat and fats to their dogs for added protein and energy, and the dogs burn it off so they don't develop health issues from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc4ever Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Scooter will do just about anything for boiled boneless, skinless chicken breasts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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