TNRidgrnr Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I found this puppy on an old gravel road miles from anywhere. He was pitiful and chased us for a while yelping to get him. We took him home and gave him some RR, food and water, flea & tick meds and dewormer. He's perked up nicely and follows directions very well for such a young pup. I estimate his age to be around 3 - 5 months old. He weighs approx. 8 lbs. l also suspect that he is either all BC or BC Mixed. Can you guess help? Also any suggestions for neutering too, when? Behavior? etc. Really anything to help!! Thanks, Amy in TN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley86 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 This might be a long shot, I'm guessing... but he reminds me a lot of a Border Collie/Jack Russell mix. What an adorable pup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Peep Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Looks like a mix to me. First glance, I thought- oops border jack. But I can't tell. Let me know what other's think. I'd wait to neuter him until his bones grow, IF you can keep close supervision on him at ALL times. If not, snip away. Thanks for saving this guy. He sure is a cutie pie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenajo Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 His had is just like my BC Grace, the body is jack...rat terrier...hmmmm. Doesn't matter! He's cute, healthy, and ready for you to enjoy! Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRidgrnr Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 This might be a long shot, I'm guessing... but he reminds me a lot of a Border Collie/Jack Russell mix. What an adorable pup I've asked around a little and that isn't the first time I've heard that combination. What traits make him look like the jack russell? Is this a good combo, temperment wise? I guess I want to do the best I can for the little fella. Sorry for so many questions. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSmitty Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 If he were younger, I'd say could be all bc. But if he's 3-5 months at that size, then he's most likely mixed with something smaller. Cute as a button! I hope you're keeping him. If he's a JRT/Rat & BC mix, you've two high energy breeds there. People breed this mix on purpose (why, oh, why? ) for doggie sports like flyball. He'll need consistent training and plenty of exercise, but what puppy doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSnappy Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 If he is 3 months old he will still have puppy teeth. If he is 5 months old, he won't. This will make a huge difference as to my breed guess because if he is 8 lbs at 5 months, there's no border collie in that dog! To be honest, I don't really see border collie in him anyway. That's not to say that he couldn't be, just that I don't see it immediately. And I don't see borderjack either - I could see the jack, but I am not really seeing the border collie. RDM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRidgrnr Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 If she were younger, I'd say could be all bc. But if she's 3-5 months at that size, then she's most likely mixed with something smaller. Cute as a button! I hope you're keeping her. I assume he's 3 - 5 months. I looked at his teeth last night and it looked like MOST of his baby teeth were in, no adult teeth and about 2 molars that were just coming through. Does that seem to be 3-5 months? Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasi Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 My first instinct when I look at him is sheltie/jrt... super cute though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaderBug Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Border Jack was my first reaction... or some sort of terrier anyway... I guess what says JRT to me is his size, how his body is mostly white with a colored head (although I know color doesn't really mean anything), and his long legs. That's JMO though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenajo Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I didn't catch the weight mention....so I'd have to doubt BC at that weight as well. Papillon maybe? Pap/jack or Pap/sheltie? A lot of what the temperament will be is already there and visible - after that its what you make of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSmitty Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I assume he's 3 - 5 months. I looked at his teeth last night and it looked like MOST of his baby teeth were in, no adult teeth and about 2 molars that were just coming through. Does that seem to be 3-5 months? Amy Someone else will know better than me, but that sounds like closer to 3 months than 5. I suck at the breed guessing game, so who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRidgrnr Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Someone else will know better than me, but that sounds like closer to 3 months than 5. I suck at the breed guessing game, so who knows? I'd have to guess that from ground to head he is about 2 feet high. Weight he seems solid 8 - 10 but stalky. We've fallen in love with him and no matter what "breed" he is. He's been taking direction very well and voluntarily goes into kennel, stopped jumping etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK dog doc Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Ask your vet to estimate age for you. That'll be a guess, but it'll be an educated guess. USUALLY the puppy teeth will shed and the adult teeth will come in at particular average ages, although there is some individual variation in this. Generally the upper canine tooth is easy to check and relatively consistent; it typically begins to erupt at 5 months of age, and is fully erupted at 6 months of age. If there are still baby incisiors, the puppy is probably under four months old. Very cute, regardless of age or breed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaderBug Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'd have to guess that from ground to head he is about 2 feet high. Weight he seems solid 8 - 10 but stalky. Measure from the ground to his withers (the top of his shoulders)... that's a more accurate measurement, as their head goes up and down and doesn't give a very good indication of height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanillalove Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I see sheltie as well, but who knows, it might just be my mind playing tricks on me. Very well could be part BC, obviously mixed with something smaller. The best giveaway will be in personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Devils Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 My signature has 4 dogs in it. One of which is a borderjack. He looks like a jack on steroids. Depending on the age, I would say some kind of sheltie mix maybe with jrt or other terrier. It is hard to tell about a mix and what it might be. You really don't see border collie in my borderjack but I know for a fact that is what he is... No matter what that is one cute puppy. edited to add pics of Riot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRidgrnr Posted August 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 My signature has 4 dogs in it. One of which is a borderjack. He looks like a jack on steroids. Depending on the age, I would say some kind of sheltie mix maybe with jrt or other terrier. It is hard to tell about a mix and what it might be. You really don't see border collie in my borderjack but I know for a fact that is what he is... No matter what that is one cute puppy. edited to add pics of Riot I forgot to mention that he hasn't dropped his "BOY" parts yet either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK dog doc Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 I forgot to mention that he hasn't dropped his "BOY" parts yet either. Well, he should have done. That means either A) he's already neutered, 2) he's a bilateral cryptorchid (has both testes retained) or iii) his testes are there, but small and shy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBCAussie Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 aww he is super cute! great markings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRidgrnr Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 OK, I was WRONG about the weight, he is actually 18 lbs and 3 months old. With that kind of weight does that place him in the possible border collie breed? This weekend he was amazing!! He would just sit on my lap with his eyes closed soaking up the LOVE!!! He's just an amazing little guy! Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSmitty Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 18 lbs. I'm thinking not Jack Russell! How about some more pics? Can you get some from his level, rather than shooting down on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley86 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Going by his weight, he doesn't sound as small as he looks in the original pictures. Going by the weight, it definitely places him in the range of being a medium sized dog, I still personally think he could be a Border Collie/Jack Russell. Because I am involved in flyball, I've seen them as small as a JRT, or up to about 22" tall making them 'average' BC sized. What gets me are the markings - they look very much like a Jack's. The face looks like it might have some sort of border collie in it... but I'm not an expert. More pictures would help As far as personality, etc... High Energy is the first words that come to mind. They are often used in flyball because they are fast, focused, and driven. Where I train there are at least three BorderJacks around, and all three of them are amazing flyball dogs. My BC girl Nova is 19 lbs at 5 months, and 17" tall at the shoulders. When I got her she was 10 lbs at 11 weeks of age. If that gives any sort of indication of size for a smaller sized Border Collie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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