Bula's Lady Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 So yesterday the dogs were loose in the house. They normally are when we are home. I was downstairs and I heard them go upstairs to chase the cats. After a few minutes I called them back down. When my fiance got home there was Poop on the bed. I know it was Bula, not Kramer, from the size. So he texted me this morning to say our down comforter is ruined because she pooped again! Needless to say the door is staying closed - But why would she do this? She was just outside, and she doesn't poop anywhere else in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet_ceana Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Did she poop in the exact same spot on the bed or in a different spot? I am assuming since the down comforter is ruined it may have been really runny? (We had an accident on our down comforter once and got it to the dry cleaner ASAP and they took care of it completely) Could she be sick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bula's Lady Posted March 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Nope, big hard plops. Not sick accident ones. Both were right in the middle. Don't worry she won't go to the pound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barb Scott Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 My advice is first get rid of BF! Then figure out the pooping problem. Barb S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC-Liz Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Are there any dominance issues in the house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Beer Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I don't know anything about the treatment of down, but I'm surprised it can't be cleaned. I would try washing it and then drench the heck out of the spot with Nature's Miracle. If you are working off the premise that it's already ruined, there is nothing to lose by trying to clean it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshine Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Or try taking it to the dry cleaners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyleew Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I don't understand why the comforter would be ruined. I had my cat pee on my a few weeks ago and I treated the spot with Nature's Miracle and then threw it in the wash and it cam out fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bula's Lady Posted March 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 He admitted after it wasn't ruined. We got spot cleaner for it. Dominance issues. That is a good avenue to go down perhaps. She trying to be dominate? I don't have to get rid of the fiance. He has done very very good with the pain in the ass border collie ( he does love her!) She loves to torment him so maybe that is why she did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninso Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I don't really know why she would have pooped on the bed the first time--maybe she had to go and there was no one to let her out. I wouldn't think dominance though. In Patricia McConnell's books, she cautions against the conclusion that a dog is trying to convey some negative emotion when the owner finds the dog has pooped in the house, because dogs love poop. To them its wonderful stuff. My guess would be the second time she pooped in the same spot it was because the smell was not washed out all the way. I would just make sure to get the smell out and make sure you are taking her out often enough. If the problem continues, I would go back to housebreaking 101. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bula's Lady Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 So maybe she was leaving us a gift? She is outside almost all day long. We live on a farm. Lots of fun activities and stimulation. Her and Kramer were just upstairs harassing the cats. We had just come in from an hour outside doing chores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewie'sMom Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 My advice is first get rid of BF! Then figure out the pooping problem.Barb S I'm sorry, that just struck me as hilarious. I know not all men are poops! Patty, who's been happily divorced for 8 years and 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalesred Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I agree with what the others said! Send the bf to the pound and the duvet to the dry cleaners.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninso Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 So maybe she was leaving us a gift? She is outside almost all day long. We live on a farm. Lots of fun activities and stimulation. Her and Kramer were just upstairs harassing the cats. We had just come in from an hour outside doing chores. I dunno, maybe. Random house-soiling issues from an otherwise housetrained dog are kind of mysterious. I know if I spend an hour outside with my dog, lots of times he will "forget" to go because he doesn't want to miss out on any of the fun. Once we had just come inside not long before I found him peeing in my BF's shoe in the entryway. Even though he had been outside for an hour or so just before he hadn't gone in probably five hours or so. Additionally, activity seems to stimulate the bowels (this is just a great topic, isn't it?), so I would guess unless the problem continues, she forgot to go while she was out and just had to go once she was on the bed. If it doesn't happen again, I wouldn't really worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyler Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I agree with what the others said!Send the bf to the pound and the duvet to the dry cleaners.... Yep, Id agree with this one...LOL. To me Im wondering if it isnt something cat related. As you said, your pup chased the cats upstairs and I wonder if the dog isnt claiming the bedroom from the cats. Could one of them perhaps have marked there that day? I would also like to know if the pup sleeps in the bed or not? Someone said that dogs love dookie (and some do!) but they also dont like to lay in their own - they may eat it as pups but not lay in it. Most dogs would see the bed (if they sleep there) as their kennel of sorts and would not go on it. Another issue might be adding scent if the BF is fairly recently sleeping there. Some background might offer insight into the problem a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliepoudrier Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Bieng outside for an hour or all day is no guarantee that she has done her business outside. I can't say why she pooped on the bed. It is not likely to be dominance issues or any other "message" to you. Sometimes sh** happens. It happened more than once because she could smell where she went before. Probably all of my well-house-trained dogs have had accidents in the house at one time or another. Aside from obvious illness, I don't spend a lot of time trying to figure out the "why" of the accident, I just try to be more diligent about making sure they do go potty when they're supposed to. I would try a more structured bathroom time outside (that is, if she has a "go potty" command or similar, use it and make sure she goes before she comes in the house) and perhaps less freedom inside for a time, just to reinforce the house training thing. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue R Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 In rereading this thread, I don't notice your saying whether or not you used an enzyme cleaner specific for dog messes, prior to laundering or otherwise cleaning the comforter. If your dog had an "accident" on the comforter and the odor was not completely removed, any remaining odor might be letting her know that that's a fine place to go. As Julie said (and I have experienced), even very well-trained dogs will occasionally have an accident. In my case, it's usually because I didn't notice the signs that one was trying to get me to let him/her out because one had to go right now (and, with my somewhat sensitive intestines, I know what that's like firsthand), because I neglected to clean a spot properly and the alluring scent was still there when the urge hit (especially when they were younger), or I did not take the time to make sure they all relieved themselves properly following exercise. My dogs have quite good routines about elimination, and we always make sure to have "go potty" time after exercise and before coming in the house. As mentioned, exercise gets all the systems going. Like young children, they sometimes don't make time to go when they should and I have to make sure the opportunity is there to get it done when and where it needs to be done. Best wishes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshian Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 This won't help you but it just reminded me of how my cat used to poop on the spare bed if we had visitors.....while they were sleeping....funny those people don't come to visit anymore... Who knows what happened. It will be interesting to see if it happens again. Might just be coincidence that it happened two times? or maybe the proper cleaning will help out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bula's Lady Posted March 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 She has a history of doing it on the beds. She was peeing on the kids room bed before doing the poopy in our room. When we are out I make sure they go poop and pee. I make sure the poop looks "normal" to make sure they aren't sick or anything. We had a big comforter on top of the bip feather comforter, we only heat by wood and it gets cold at night. The first day we took the comforter off and were able to wash it up, the second she went directly on the father comforter, but I think in relatively the same spot. Needless to say animals are not allowed in the bedroom anymore unless we are in there. They sleep in crates downstairs. I just have never had a dog go to the bathroom on the bed like this, other areas in the house yes. Her little quirk I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue R Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 She has a history of doing it on the beds. Since you apparently have an ongoing problem, I think your choice of using the crates and barring the dogs from the bedrooms is your most expedient solution. It sounds like your dog has been able to make a bad habit out of this and prevention is the key since you haven't solved the problem by any other means you might have tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fosher Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 We used to have a dog that would seek out one particular guy's bed and poop on it if she could. If she couldn't get to his bed, she would poop outside his door. This happened wherever he was housed, and even if the dog was just visiting. She absolutely adored him -- how would you say this down south? -- bless her heart. She was a little touched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSmitty Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 She absolutely adored him -- how would you say this down south? -- bless her heart. She was a little touched. Bill, I believe it's "bless her pea-pickin' heart". You can't forget the pea-pickin' part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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