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  1. Yes they removed the breeders prefix and put mine on. I found out when someone else brought it to my attention as it was posted on FB, the registration that is. I have never said anything mainly because I was so shocked and honestly did not know what to say, Now enough time has passed that I do not know how to bring it up.
  2. I had someone take off another prefix and put mine on. I was not impressed and when I asked ABCA about it they said nothing could be done about it as kennel prefixes are not legal in ABCA. I have a dog that I want to change her name to Star as we have a Dot, but I will leave the kennel prefix there as it is, I was told the name with a name in parenthesis is when they already have had litters and could not be changed,
  3. Our dogs have had the vaccine ever since we have been in MT. The only poisonous snake here is the prairie rattlesnake. My understanding is the same as others have stated, that it buys me time to get to the vet and the reaction to the bite is not as severe and recovery is more assured. We live 50 miles from the vet and I will do what it takes to insure our dogs survive a bite. Our vet is with me on fewer vaccine and we usually only do our "yearly" shots when we do the rabies or every other time. But she recommends the rattlesnake and that is good enough for me. I understand there is a lot of controversy as to if it even helps but it is not a chance I care to take. We have a den less than a mile from us and so we do run into a few snakes every year. No bites yet, thank God, but I would like the opportunity to get the dog to the vet if it happens.
  4. Our guard dogs, even if not in with the sheep when we go out to work them, get in with them. I think it is just their way of making sure the sheep are ok. They know if the 4 wheelers come out and there are BC's along, that the sheep will be moved. If we are just our checking on the sheep they seem to know that as well. We only lock them up when we are moving sheep around that we do not want them out with, so shearing and shipping is usually the only times.
  5. When we moved, our vet did all the checking, plus we also checked with the state we moved to for brand inspections. So if you have a good relationship with your vet, that is the best place to start. Good luck on your move.
  6. @Liz- It is legal if securely fastened down. The biggest issue is if it is all open. If you are driving 60 miles an hour with wind and rain...... So you would have to find a way to restrict the elements if the weather is bad.
  7. Yes you must have scrapie tags in all of them plus health papers. If you are transporting rams most likely they will need a Brucellosis test as well. You will want to check with any states you are travelling through to see if they require anything different. I think legally in all states livestock are only allowed on the trailer for 24 hours, but as with all of this it is best to check for sure. We almost always drive straight through so they were not on the trailer for more than the legal time. Also legally we are required to stop at weigh stations BUT never have. We have never been pulled over for it either but... We always have hay for them, do not grain unless we are stopping overnight and at least offer water. As for water, As Deb said, it is best to haul some from where you live if possible. Sheep are funky about drinking strange water. Or take some baking soda(neutralize the smell) or jello to neutralize the taste. IF you must offload somewhere some fairgrounds offer overnight facilities for a minimal fee or perhaps you know people along the way where you could unload.
  8. Our ewes are basically a commercial Columbia. But they are wild range ewes and they have to be. They winter over in the "breaks" and do not see anybody from Dec-April. This flock started out with Rambouillet ewes and Lincoln rams. We do labor sharing out here. We help our neighbors and they help us. We try to hire some younger people so it is easier on us older folks, for lamb grabbing. We usually do two groups one day and one group for the next two days, so usually done in 3 days. Yes these girls are a bit wild. We do not go out in the lambing pastures from shearing until docking. They will literally take off and leave the lambs if they see you coming, especially on a 4 wheeler. Not quite as bad if we are in a pickup. Makes it tough but we have found that we bum lambs if we try to go out and check on them, so we stay out
  9. Thanks for sharing, I find it interesting how other ranchers do their sheep. Everyone has a different idea on what works best or their climate and terrain demand a different approach. I will say I am glad we do not Mulesing. Just as I am glad we are beyond doing the testicles by teeth and twisting the tails as was done on this ranch before us. We just have a long flat narrow table. The handlers grab lambs and take them from person to person to be treated. Then they are released and allowed to mother back up for several hours or even a day or two before being let back out in the bigger pastures. Not knowing your sheep all I can say is ours, if we did all 1600 lambs in a day, we would have a disaster. There are usually 600-800 ewes in the smaller(3000acre) pasture and the rest of them in the larger pasture(over double that). The ewes, when let out, just take off. They do not like being around people and do not care if their babies follow or not. So we do them in groups of 300-400 and let them mother back up in the holding pastures which are around 400 acres.
  10. Posted by mjk05 (I'm sure it depends on the circumstances- maybe ages of lambs, breeds of sheep- but we'd mark 800- 1000 lambs a day with 4 people on a mulesing cradle, someone else pushing up. Good professional teams are probably much faster. Most people here do band nuts, rather than surgically castrate, but then mulesing takes a while too. Merinos are notoriously bad mums, but then our paddocks are generally smaller (hundreds of acres), so that evens out.) Sorry I do not seem to be able to make it say it is quoted from you. We could do them all in a day or two if we had to, but it is more for the reasoning of letting them mother back up good so we do not have bums. We have 4 people at minimum grabbing lambs to take to the docking table. There they get castrated, docked, shots, branded and tarred. So there is at least six on the docking table. The smallest pasture they go back into is 3,000 acres so mothering back up is very important. What is mulesing?? What time of the year are you docking? Are there flies? We have considered banding and then tarring really well and hoping it would stay on until they healed, but that is doubtful. There is a new bander out that is supposed to be really humane and we have considered it. We would love to have our pastures at least no more than 1,000 acres so that docking would go more smoothly but that is years down the road if ever.
  11. A lot of the old timers did it that way, not that we ever would. They would grab them by their teeth and pull them out and twist their tails off. There was a lot less blood(from the tails)that way. The managers who were here before us did it that way. We cut the bottom of the sacs and pull them out. Then the tails are done with a tool called a double crush tail docker, that puts crimping pressure on the cut tail which limits the bleeding. All of that is tarred to keep flies and infection out. Banding is nice for winter lambing when you do not have to worry about the flies. Most of the big ranchers out here range lamb and are lambing and "docking" in summer. Docking, even with a large crew, does take a while. We will dock at least 1600 head and we do it over 3-4 days. You gather a group the night before, bring them in the corrals in the morning, dock and have lunch. Then a lot of your help goes home and you gather more sheep for the next day, plus let out the other group that was done after the lambs are moving better. You dock in smaller groups so that the lambs will mother back up with the ewes. They are running on thousands of acres and need to be with their mothers before heading back out. If you dock in too large of a group you will bum a bunch of lambs
  12. Ally is not a "Drop Out", but a very strong working dog. We have sheep around here and I do not have the time to work her on a daily basis. She is aggressive with sheep, but with time and work may come out of that. I feel she would work for somebody with the time and experience, or better yet work cattle as her mothers lines are cattle bred. She worked sheep from the 1st time she was put on them and has a lot of talent but is too much dog for me as I am a novice handler. I only train 1-2 times a month and she needs more. As our sheep are expensive breeding/showing sheep I did not want to have a dog around that I had to watch constantly. So I made the decision to sell her to someone who could use her daily or for agility as she is fast. She has no bad habits, except tough with a bite on sheep and does not care to ride in the truck. She is ABCA papered and Normal for CEA, the price I am charging is my decision.
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