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  1. Team results: England 1st., Canada 2nd., Norway 3rd. Individual: 1st. Jaran Knive - 2nd. Kevin Evans -3rd. Serge Vanderzweep
  2. Kristi, Lou is with you still. He is in your heart, your mind and your memories. They never fade. I remember from the start and to the passing and I remember him helping you out throughout your early years. He is what we call "steady" and consistent, courageous but not aggressive, willing but not needy and BIG! Don't fret. Enjoy the memories and that part of your life with him. Bob
  3. I have a friend on the Isle of Skye who has been using it for his cows and sheep for years. There is a great distillery on Skye and most of the farmers there use the mash. It is delivered to them right from the distillery. Bob Stephens
  4. Great videos Dave as usual. Anyone not looking at these is not interested in getting better. This video is a free clinic/ Bob Stephens
  5. I think you probably figured that out for yourself too Eileen by adding the first and second round scores as I did. But there's nothing posted yet as to who the Champions are. Bob Stephens
  6. I get a little upset when I hear all this stuff about white factoring and deafness. I know there have been studies done to establish whether white factoring (whatever that is) leads to either early onset deafness or deafness at a later date. None of these has been conclusive as of my last reading. My original kennel stud dog, Del'mar Turk was a split face dog out of a split face sire and a bitch with a fair amount of white on her. Turk produced at least 25 pups over his lifetime and not one was ever deaf until very late in life when most border collies experience some form of deafness. I'
  7. His gait looks fine and you're in pretty good shape too. If it's not broke, don't try to fix it. If the vet doesn't see anything wrong there likely isn't. I'm sure he would recommend rays if he thought they were needed. He appears to be athletic and of good nature and pretty happy with doing stuff with you. Enjoy him......Bob Stephens
  8. Thanks Dave for the excellent videos, as usual. Just like being there. Looks like it was a great trial. Once I get my eyes and knee fixed, we'll see you on the trial field, maybe this winter......Bob Stephens, thanks again
  9. The secret (not really) to controlling this type of dog is a very good stop. Don't even take him to stock until you know that you have a pretty fair stop on him. Apart from being able to keep him off the stock so he can't grip, the stop is the only other thing that will save you. This type of dog is very valuable around the ranch as he likes to control stock all the time and, as long as you have control of him, he will serve you very well over his lifetime. To get this stop, you must be extremely consistent and never let up in order for him to understand that you are in charge. 2 1/2 week
  10. You`ll do fine. Have fun but try hard to do the right thing in your mind. Again, have fun!!!!! and remember, WE WE`RE ALL THERE AT SOME TIME AND WE`RE NOT HERE TO JUDGE YOU! (Unless, of course, we are the Judge) Bob Stephens
  11. I have given Eileen and Heather my notice of retirement from the expert's position and you will be very excited about my replacment, I'm sure. You will be getting advice from one of the top trainers in North America and a very knowledgeable and dedicated handler who has been extremely successful. Enjoy her and take advantage of her knowledge. This kind of experience does not come along every day. I have enjoyed working with all of you and especially those challenging questions that kept me awake at times trying to figure out a solution. That is how we learn and, if we ever stop learning,
  12. You can't do it without yelling with some dogs and I would suggest she is one of them. The "lie down" is one of the most important commands on a working dog and, if not executed effectively, the dog is in the wrong place all the time. I am a little concerned about the "waiting for your direction" statement as you want your dog to be thinking when she is working and take direction when needed, not waiting for you to give it. Don't be too concerned about yelling while training a dog. You need to use a firm voice and, at times, a loud voice to get the effect you are looking for. As the dog
  13. Hi Suzanne. Glad to hear of your successes this past week end. Your dogs sound like they are very keen which is really nice to have. Your young one, Yoko, is just very keen going to the post and wanting to get at it right now and can't wait to get going. She will settle somewhat as she gains more experience but I think you'll find that she will always be ready and willing even as she gets older. Going to voice works very well when the dog tends to run through you and is the right thing to do in that situation. I always say that if what you are doing is not working try something else. De
  14. An inside flank is a flank that is executed with the dog flanking between you and the sheep. The best way to train this flank, in my opinion, is on a fence with the dog driving the sheep along the fence and you standing at right angle to the dog and sheep about 40 feet away. Walk the dog up on the sheep and keep them on the fence by flanking the dog to the outside of the sheep but staying behind them. As the sheep move down the fence give the dog a flank to the outside of the sheep and call his/her name and call the dog to you with a "here". You don't want the dog to come to you but you do
  15. You are much too humble Lana. I would say that anyone who accomplished what you have in your time at this way of life and who has undertaken the ownership of a relatively large sheep ranch and raising two kids to boot doesn't have to call herself average in the training or any business. And as far as nursery dogs go I don't think you've ever seen me run very many of them either. And Julie, it sure isn't impossible to find a good dog with courage that is biddable but it sure isn't that common either. I wish there were more of them especially when you start getting into the mid 70's and you
  16. I'm back. Not once have I heard the word courage mentioned when talking about a cow dog in this post. I think that dogs that train easily are great also but when it comes to working range cows all the training in the world will not get the job done unless the dog has courage and the desire to control the stock. So, as far as I'm concerned, and I train a lot of cow dogs for ranchers in BC, you need to know that the dog has the right stuff before you spend all that time in training. I have seen some that have enough presence to move cattle and are also fairly biddable but the majority of goo
  17. Hi Suzanne. Once again, I don't know what happened here but I missed a couple of posts during the holiday. One of the things you could do is work her on a bigger flock (20 sheep +)and work her so that she is pushing really hard and getting them to trot. Slow her down and speed her up so that she gets the idea that she is in charge. Sometimes we work so much at controlling the speed of the sheep when we trial that we take a certain amount of confidence out of the dog by making them work at controlled slow speeds all the time. Let her razz them a bit and get a little full of herself at times
  18. I have to apologise to you for not answering your question right away. Somehow I missed it. Your dog needs to have some good old manners put into him so that he recognizes you are there. Get a good stop on him so that you can control where he is and then start to gather with him after you have control of him. You may have to use a long line for a while to get the stop (lie down) on him but don't go back to gathering until you have it. Just walk him up and down the fence on sheep with a walk up and lie down until you can stop him well. Sounds like he is a strong one who wants to do his ow
  19. I have been following this thread quite closely and it is my firm belief that education and putting proof in the pudding is the answer to the border collie being used more by the ranchers and farmers. My part in this is writing aticles in the "Beef in BC" magazine which is the magazine put out by the British Columbia Cattlemens' Association. I have been doing this for about 4 or 5 years now and have lots of response and emails asking questions about stock dogs, specifically border collies, how to raise them, how to pick them, feed, training etc., etc. I get so many calls either for training
  20. Yes, it looks like she is understanding what must be done and she went to balance very well at the top on this outrun. I certainly would not get her any wider than she already is as she will get wider with age. She is showing a nice pear shaped outrun and her lift is a little fast but it will come under control with practise and time. I waw her looking closely at some of the sheep that were trying to go to your left as they were approaching you and that is good as she understands that they must be kept together. On the previous video I saw a lamb that was lagging behind all the time and you
  21. I have a 4 year old that is for sale and on whistles. Contact me privately at delmarturk@yahoo.com or 250-828-1176. Bob Stephens
  22. To be quite frank, Donald, I always tell my students to send to the pressure unless there is some physical or mental reason to do with the dog that you can't; these being: doesn't run well on one side, dog loses sheep on one side on the way out etc. It doesn't appear that any of this kind of stuff prevailed at the trial in question so I would say to send to the pressure. (Send to the side to which the sheep tend to want to go)..Bob Stephens
  23. Pretty nice when you can have that kind of confidence in a dog that he can pretty well get any job done. Good luck and thanks for getting back to me. Also I would like to recommend that those folks who can get to a Bobby Dalziel clinic get to it. I know that he is putting one on back east this spring and this would be a good opportunity for some of you to train under one of the masters of the world. Bob
  24. Leave your stock with the horse. They seem to be comfortable with the horse and the horse will protect them from pretty well anything. I have used only a horse for a guardian for 18 years now and have never lost an animal. And we live in a very populated sub division with dogs running loose all over the place. It is very necessary to get the horse and the sheep used to each other before depending on the horse to guard but it doesn't take long. Bob Stephens
  25. The best advice I can give you in this situation is to flank the dog off the leader or antagonist that he is eyeing so that you break the focus on that animal. It won't be easy. You should also let him know that that is not what you want right now by correcting him if he doesn't take the flank. I take it he is quite a strong dog and likes to do this quite often and it is really time consuming when that happens. Now, it isn't always the dog's fault. Sometimes that ewe or doe just won't let up and turn which is what he wants her to do. To get on with your work, when in this situation, it i
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