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  1. I tend to agree with Kim. If he had only been at your home for 3 weeks, well then I'd not see a problem with his wanting to be in the crate so much. But after 3.5 months, I tend to think of the crate as a crutch, and feel he needs weaned away from it. I would probably recommend closing the door and therefore denying access for short times, multiple times a day, and then building the time of no-access up. Also, in my experience, when dealing with a fearful dog, many times the owner tries to comfort the dog and therefore unwittingly reinforces the fear. I have had better results with "happying" the dog up during fearful times with a lot of happy, upbeat talk and praise...even if he does not seem to respond to it at first. Keep your attitude positive, and I'm sure things will get better.
  2. Oh, that is so funny. Take out "Kaylee" and type in "Kylie". That's my dog to the "T". When I was researching the breed I read a really good article which talked about how border collies feel the need to protect their homes and families from "grizzley bears"....which could be disguised as a person in a hat or any strange object that has appeared out of nowhere. I can't tell you how many times we laugh and say "yeah, there's a grizzley." We had a tree that had toppled in our yard....BIGGG grizzley. She noticed the ceiling fan...another grizzley. Someone moved the garden tractor cart to another part of the yard...yep! a grizzley. Our home and yard are polluted with grizzley bears! What really surprises me is that once you take her to it and show her what it is, she gets over it so quickly....then it's ok. (Except the tree...she wasn't really happy until it was all cut up and taken away.)
  3. My neighbors were having arthritis issues with their 13 year old dog, and put her on glucosomine chews and it has made a miraculous difference. They are called "Joint MAX TRIPLE Strength SOFT CHEWS " and they are from: http://www.HealthyPets.com They give her one a day, and she loves them. She runs and plays like a puppy again. Best of luck!
  4. Well, I thank everyone for their input. It seems everyone is in the majority. I also thought I should stop the behavior immediately, but not having had a bc before, thought I should get some opinions. Oh, you're all gonna love my next post/question. thanks again.
  5. Recommended way of quashing it immediately: Make her stay while the other dog is retrieving? or... Call her off the minute she starts to do it? Should I give a voice correction at her for giving the dog a stare before she even moves? Is voice correction enough? (this dog does seem to respond well to voice) thanks
  6. Gee, I hope I don't sound like a complete novice here. But I'd like everyone's B.C. input on this "new" behavior we are now seeing. We have had our girl for 4 weeks now, and she has really come a long way. (She was a courtesy listing rescue that we acquired from the owner.) She is now getting along well with my little mix. Yesterday, I witnessed something new. Up until now, Kylie and Stormy have played pretty well; rough-housing and even running for the ball. Usually when we play ball, Kylie has her special ball that she wants to play with exclusively, and Stormy has a passion for chasing apples that have fallen from our trees. Yesterday I noticed that when I throw an apple for Storm, she starts to “eye” him. Her focus is not on the apple or the retrieve…it is on the moving dog. She then calculates when he will run and runs at him from the side, growling. He growls back and doesn’t pay her any mind, as he is focused on getting to the apple. Today, it has evolved into something a little more complex. They played separately for a while, then I could see the light bulb come on. She alerted on him, crouched, and began to eye him. She focused on his running and tried to run him down from the side, growling. When I tried to call her off, she dropped to the ground in a down position and continued to “eye” him. It is quite fascinating to watch. I am assuming that this is typical border collie behavior - or is it? Is this something I want to keep in check; or do I just continue to let it happen? Am anxious to hear what you all have to say. Sheep may be in the future, but for now, I want to get a handle on this behavior...is it good, bad, or just natural? Should I keep it in check or just ignore it? thanks!
  7. You can put the trap (even the mean kind) maybe in a cupboard (like at the bottom of your sink) and close the door or in the drawer at the bottom of the stove. You'd be amazed where they go and you don't know it (at least that's how it is with mice).
  8. OK, I'm a little challenged myself regarding the "quote" button; went to Help and still couldn't figure out how to do it (LOL). Anyways, regarding the child who at 2.5 does not talk and may have developmental delays. My first son was almost 3 and did not talk...just made noises. Everyone told me something was wrong with him, so I took him to two different doctors who said, "When he's ready to talk, he'll talk." Oh, we tried everything to encourage him; and we worried. Well, today he is 23, graduated from college with great grades and is an engineer. He talked when he was a little over 3, and interestingly, he was a very quiet kid all through school....and they used to complain about that at school...that he didn't talk a lot! His response was "I don't talk unless I have something to say." LOL Can't argue with that!
  9. Thanks for the reply. No...when I stamp my feet she comes at me and growls. Like, if she's across the room during ball playing and I stomp my feet in a stance, she comes barreling at me growling. I really think it's a play growl and that is probably part of a playing ritual she did at her old home with her old owners. I do think, like you said, that during the shake that was a fear growl. Hmmm...all these growls are new to me. None of my GSDs ever did any of this. That's why I am really appreciating all the input everyone is giving me. Today both my husband and I got our first "talking/singing" sounds when we came home. My other dog does this, and Kylie has never done this before. So, I'm hoping that it is part of her "welcome home" ritual and that she is starting to think of us as "her" special people. Tomorrow will be three weeks that we've had her. I think she has adjusted fantastically.
  10. Hi Thanks so much for the reply. It's all very helpful. The growly thing is something that I'm gonna have to work through. She's been with us only 3 weeks on Tuesday and has made really great strides. But I noticed that if I stamp my feet (as if challenging while playing), she runs over and growls. Today I was testing a part of my ceramic tile floor to see if it was moving, and as I pushed with one foot, she ran over and growled. My first instinct is to say that this was probably part of a playing ritual with her former owners (they had two teenage boys), however, we are all still getting to know one another and trying to read these things will take time. What if they did a lot of this rough growly play, and she got so excited one time and bit someone. I'll never know. So I'm still trying to feel my way through this. So everyone's comments on the play growling have been VERY VERY helpful. I do know one thing: I am just fascinated by this breed and this dog. She is so much fun and is really a great girl. We've moved past the "not getting along" stage with my other dog and have worked through some other small challenges. I am itching to get the old agility equipment out, but my trainer's brain tells me to wait a few more weeks and start with obedience work first (she was ob. trained by her former owners). She still gets that "panic" look in her eye every so often, telling me she is still confused at times as to why she is here and who we are. The other night I was trying to see if they taught her any tricks (sit up, shake hands, etc.) and so using food, I put my hand out and said "Shake?".... she growled and ran away! LOL Who knows what that is about!!! Was it a play growl? I don't think so, but who knows. I don't know her well enough yet. So like I said, we take it all very slowly. I am very grateful to everyone for their comments and help. And...I am enjoying reading the other posts that also give me insight into Border Collie character. Thanks again to everyone
  11. Hi! I am new to the BC breed, new to this board, and don't know you or your background as many of these people do. However, I am old enough (we won't say how old) to have learned one thing in life: TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS. If you have this nagging feeling about the situation, then listen to yourself. Either there is an underlying problem your brain is trying to relay to you...or maybe even just the timing is not right for you. I know that anytime I have not listened to my instincts (if I was doubtful but went ahead anyway), I found that I should have paid more attention to that little nagging feeling.
  12. THAT might be worth a shot. Does it do as well as a brush?
  13. hmmm...you are correct. When she snapped at me, there was no growl. It was reactive. And though her mouth did touch me, she probably easily could have bitten me but didn't. It's always hard when you don't know the history of the animal, so we're all just testing the waters right now. None of my GSDs (even the ones I got as young adults) did not play growl...so this is quite new to me. thanks for your ideas; I appreciate them.
  14. thanks so much. I'll keep all that in mind in the future. And...I have already found the board to be invaluable!! My thanks so much to everyone!
  15. ahhh...you make a VERY good point. You are right...many puppies learn to avoid grooming my pitching a temper tantrum and the owner just gives up. And this could also be the case...not necessarily a traumatic experience with the groomer. Thanks for your insight.
  16. Hi! thanks for your response. Actually she LOVES to be petted/stroked down the back. When she snapped, it was because I (deliberately) raked my fingers down her back like a brush would. I wanted to see her response without the brush (i.e. was she hit with a brush? or does she not like the feel of the brush?) I think it is the latter one. We will work on that once she is comfortable here and she is truly ours (in her mind.) The former owner did tell me she absolutely HATED having her feet touched/toenails. So when she gets in my lap, I have been gently touching the feet and nails. That has been going much better than the brush thing. thanks again
  17. Hi Alisa! Wow! two responses almost immediately. I've always said that dog people (not matter what the breed) are the BEST! I just have to keep remembering that the key word here is SLOW. This is a slow process. I really like the soft bristle brush -- wow -- you'd think I'd have thought of that! I always use a wire brush and that's what I was using at first. Come the time we get to brush work, I will remember to start out maybe even with the smooth side (back) of the brush and work over to the soft bristle. Over two weeks now, and she's been able to be in the yard (fenced) off leash. But today she has regressed. Goes out and goes into a panic mode. Can see her just saying "Wait! Where am I? Who are these people." Then we pick up the ball and she's over it. Sometimes just breaks my heart how these dogs are so up-ended. But I know how adaptable dogs are and they do adapt. Thanks for your response. And her name is Kylie! I'll try to post a photo soon.
  18. oops. I forgot that "aggressive" is not a politically correct term anymore. Well 25+ years w/GSDs and I never encouraged any kind of growling in a puppy/young dog with that breed. But I know other breeds have it and people and their dogs live well with it. I guess my biggest concern right now if not knowing the dog and not being able to "read" play growling vs regular growling. We are all still adjusting and it will be a long process. But I am really enjoying it and I thank you for your very prompt response!!
  19. Hi! So glad I found this site. I am the new owner of a "rescue" Border Collie - although I am an experienced trainer/instructor of other breeds and this "rescue" dog never was in a shelter; was a courtesy listing and I secured her from her home. I am thoroughly enjoying the learning process about this breed and this dog. The little challenges I am encountering do not surprise me...however, I find I am in need of more breed insight (i.e. living with a border collie - and I'm sure I'll need more insight in the future). She's 1 1/2 yrs., spayed, and seems to have a nice, even temperament (although I know that I will not be seeing the true dog for at least a month; she is only here 2 1/2 weeks and is still in a major adjustment phase). I think she's doing very well for a dog that was plucked out of a home and thrust into another home. "Play growling" She does a lot of it. I bred, owned and trained an aggressive breed before, and with them, this was never allowed. I'm thinking the former owners did a lot of wrestling, tugging, and roughhousing as she was growing up. Have decided that for now, we don't want to encourage that, however, is play growling ok in the border collie world (that is, play growling between handler and dog)? Also, a new glitch we just discovered. She was acting weird when I was brushing my other dog, and freaks if I try to put the brush near her. So yesterday, I decided to start exploring by just taking my fingers and raking them through her hair down her back (simulating a brush) and she turned to snap at me. Just a snap; not a bite (although I have quick reflexes) and so I corrected her (she responds very well to just voice correction) and then she came over all submissive and wanted to be loved. Hmmm. Any thought on this (other than I would imagine she either didn't get groomed till late in life...or she had a bad experience with it.) I know this will be a slow process and I know how to work through it, but just wanted to get a border collie perspective on it. My first thought would be to call the former owners...however, they were moving (that's why they decided to give her up) and I've called them once (just about general food questions) and they just don't seem as helpful or as concerned as I would think they would be. They have never contacted me to see how she adjusted or how she was doing, and I find that to be a little strange (making me wonder if there were some incidents that they were leaving out.) Well, I'll take any thoughts, help, ideas, or just general knowledge....I appreciate any comments I may get. thanks!
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