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  1. This is the most insightful thing I have read in a long time regarding living with a dog. Applies to puppies, adults, and re-homed dogs. If I were only able to convey one thing to a new puppy or dog owner, this would be it. I am copying it down so I never forget it. Good work, D'Elle.
  2. Hi Julieh! I am going along with much of the previous input. My puppies were "barn puppies" that I brought home at 9 weeks....I did not see any difference with them than with puppies that were not born in a barn. I am wondering what the "nightmare" behavior you referred to was before, and if it has any connection to your leash-walking problem. One thing I discovered with my puppies was that they seemed pretty wild until I realized that the crazy behavior I was seeing was actually puppies that were overly stimulated and therefore overly tired. (Think I got that insight from someone on these boards!) I put them on a schedule and crated them periodically during the day and that totally solved the problem. I also use food right at the position where I want my puppies to walk. This has worked well for me. Mine also went through a puppy obedience course, even though I've trained for years. I don't know where you are located, but I know that in our area, dog classes are opening up again. I would suggest you look into that. I also question long walks and expecting a puppy not to pull (especially one that is not obedience/leash trained.) I keep my training sessions short and plentiful, since puppies can't focus for long periods of time. So perhaps you should concentrate at this time on many short sessions of teaching her to walk, with lots of food and praise. Even if she is not food-oriented, try different kinds of foods like liver, chicken or braunschweiger. Don't give up. This doesn't sound like something insurmountable!
  3. Right off the top of my head: AKC = more awareness of the breed (via televised dog shows like National Dog Show, Westminster, etc.) More televised dog sports that usually have border collies (i.e. disc dog, agility, etc.) Commercials - hard not to see at least one commercial with a border collie in it any given evening of television-watching. Movies - wasn't there a surge after Babe came out? Will the surge harm the breed? Absolutely. History tell us this. Ask the Dalmatian people who live in fear every 6 years or so when 101 Dalmatians is re-released. Ask the German Shepherd people. When a breed gains popularity, the breed usually suffers.
  4. Two things. One: my first BC was from a rescue courtesy listing. She came from a loving home, was never abused, and I swear it took her 2 years or more to adjust. My theory on that is when you adopt a dog that had a hard life, they are many times "grateful"; in this case, she was plucked from her home and landed in mine. I think she was confused and maybe even resentful. Ah, but she did adapt and turned out to be an awesome agility dog. The fact that you've stated how he has come along so far says that he is adjusting well, and he still may be adjusting. Two: my two 11 month puppies are litter mates with totally different personalities. Started them both out in agility ground work from the time they came home. Both seemed to love it. Then, one day, Parker was still loving agility and Piper, not so much. She did, however, love to go out in the yard and track the scent of anything that went through the yard. So she is now in a nosework class and loves it! I haven't written agility off for her in the future -- maybe when she gains more confidence and maturity. For now, this is working for her. So, it could be that your dog may come around and eventually like the trick training -- or maybe not. Maybe he just has a different personality and will excel at something different (much like people). For those reasons, try not to compare your new dog to the old one. They are different dogs with different personalities and you need to find the ways your new dog will shine. And by the way, I think it is awesome that he knows 45 commands - and most of those are important commands that most people would love to have their dogs know and obey -- so by far, you have already done an excellent job with this guy!
  5. I debated where to locate this; Health or General Discussion. I was thinking I might get more looks in General, but if it should be moved to Health, please do so. From the day I brought the puppies home, Piper would always chew her food in an odd way. Sort of rolling it around in the back of her mouth; spitting it out sometimes, then picking it up again. I racked it up to puppy teething. However, she is 11 months old with permanent teeth now, and still chewing in that odd way. The vet finds nothing wrong with her mouth, her bite, or her teeth. She does not find anything wrong with the jaw, and doubts it would be tmj because there seems to be no pain involved. She does not wince or cry when chewing. She does not gag on her food or throw it up. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this. I tried a forum search, but "chewing" brings up articles on things like chewing bones or chewing shoes, etc. Any input would be appreciated.
  6. I lost my 13 year old girl Kylie to kidney disease in April. She was diagnosed in July. I believe she may have contracted it from Ehrlichia, but I cannot be positive on that. My Vet gave her til December to live, so I got four bonus months. She really had no symptoms except for urinating two or three times when let out. I had two friends who also had dogs with kidney disease, so I knew a little about what would happen. Both gave sub-Q fluids. One lasted almost 2 years, but her quality of life would not be what I would want for my dog. The other started sub-Q thinking she would also get 2 years; she only got 2 months. I believe it progresses at different rates for different dogs. I had made the choice early not to do fluids. I also made the choice early that the day she quits eating is the day we call the vet. And so, from July to April I had a very normal, happy old dog. She never missed a meal. I fed her the commercial renal kibble, soaked, mixed with renal canned. She also got a renal supplement and milk thistle and a pinch of baking soda. Her numbers would go up and down (my vet told me that was not unusual); eventually I quit doing the numbers -- it was making me crazy. Every time they were good, it would give me false hope. Then I would be devastated when they went back. She also got Dasequin, Fish OIl and Galliprant for her arthritis. She climbed the steps and played without showing visible pain. I will tell you how mine ended. On a Thursday evening, I noticed she was coughing a little. Very little. By Saturday, it had me worried enough to call the vet (why does everything happen on a weekend?) I eventually found out that in the later stages, the kidney will release an enzyme that causes congestive heart failure.) By Monday, the coughing was getting worse. However, she was still playing with the puppies and was in good spirits. Tuesday morning she barely ate (picked), more coughing, and I knew this was probably the end. But -- just in case -- I waited to see if she would eat dinner. She totally did not. This was a dog that never missed a meal. And in two days, I could see a change in her eyes and her face. She just looked so old and tired. Wednesday morning she asked me to call the vet. So... I thought I was over this, but now I am crying as I write it. I am writing because in the end stages, I searched the internet trying to find any story as to how this really ends. I'm pretty sure everyone's is different, but this is how mine ended. I know Cressa is a very special dog for you, and my heart aches for you.
  7. I found this very intriguing. I have been, since I got the puppies, making an effort to hug and hold them and even lay on them as a child would, all in hopes of preparing them in case such a thing happened. (Let me just say that I do NOT ever leave kids and dogs un-monitored and would never condone such behavior....but children can be quick and unpredictable.) So now you have me thinking -- it actually might be a good idea to build this "unpredictable" behavior into their training....not just for childproofing, but it would probably be a good thing to prepare them for any unexpected thing that might happen. I am thinking like when you prepare a therapy dog by de-sensitizing them to moving wheelchairs, walkers, and falling objects. Thank you for this idea! I think I want to incorporate it into future training.
  8. Wow. As simple as that sounds, it is not a question I actually asked myself until reading it now!! Of course, I would be thrilled if my dogs totally loved children of all ages; were very patient around them; did not startle if they did something unexpected; and we all lived happily ever after. However, I am old enough to realize that it is not a perfect world with perfect people and dogs. And I know that every dog has a different personality that many times is hard-wired. So my answer might be that I would like my dogs not be reactionary around children and be friendly toward them. I am learning a lot this weekend (by trial and error) and this has made me think, think, think. I lost both of my older dogs this year. Both were BCs and were adopted when they were 1 1/2 years old. When they were alive and the kids came to visit, one was very very calm and patient with the children. The other was raised with teenagers before we got her. She loved people and went crazy over teenagers. She was fine with young children, but she was very suspicious and afraid of toddlers. (From a dog's point of view, I totally understand that.) So with her, she was segregated from the toddler(s) when she could not be totally monitored. I guess I would like to avoid that with the new dogs if possible.
  9. I certainly understand that it is my responsibility to take them places to socialize them. Not as simple as it sounds when you live in the country and around small towns. Classes have started again, and we have been out on the walking trail even during the quarantine. And while socializing them was certainly a big part of my plan when I got them (much less 2), I knew even then that the kid socialization was going to be difficult. I am not writing to whine; I am writing to see if anyone can think of any other resources I can tap into. I can and do walk them in town, but am not guaranteed to see children along the walks. We have a playground, however it has been locked since March (and before that the playground was locked due to winter.) Like I said -- not whining. Just trying to see if anyone has encountered a similar situation and how they dealt with it.
  10. Thank you Gentle Lake! We have been working with each puppy separately (for instance, today we worked on the bike the grandchild was riding is not scary). I really like the idea of one adult, one kid, one puppy in one room. I never thought of that! You are right that I should have this dialogue with my adult kids. They are understanding of the situation since they both come from dog-oriented homes. I am also doing a lot of this work on leash, not only because I have more control but because it seems that when the leash is off and they are in a situation, they don't know how to handle it, but when they are on leash they have more confidence to look to me for guidance. Of course, my main concern is even after the pandemic, there really isn't anyplace to expose them to children since we totally live in the country. Then I'm back to square one! I am still wracking my brain over that one. If I lived in town, chances are there would be neighbor kids. I replied to this once on my phone, but it didn't show up for some reason.
  11. So I knew this day would come. The puppies are 11 months now and this is the second time my out-of-state kids have come with their three children (2 toddlers and an infant). Last time they visited, the pups were 5 months. Since then we have been to classes; walks in town; and then, of course, quarantine. However, even without quarantine, I knew this would pose a problem. If these puppies were raised with children, I have no doubt I would not have any problem. They absolutely love people, and I have witnessed the sire and dam who had lived with grandchildren. However, we live rural and our kids are grown, so it is just my husband and me. But this weekend we had two adults, three children, and two other dogs descend on us. Quite a big and overwhelming plate for the puppies. Knowing this, I have tried to take this slowly...limiting time with the kids, on-leash petting and cookie giving. And although I totally understand this from the dogs point of view, I am just not liking the way they startle when the kids move too quickly. So my questions are 1. how would you handle this situation and.... 2. What happens after they leave. We are back to alone time until the next visit, which will probably be 2 months away. And then it will be re-adjusting all over again. I knew from the start this was going to be hard. No matter how I racked my brain, I could not come up with a plan for socializing puppies with children when you have no access to children on a daily basis (or even a weekly basis.) Classes consist of adults, as do walks. And even on the occasional walk when encountering kids, it's not enough exposure to make them "child-proof." Thanks in advance for any input, advice, and tricks you might have!
  12. I know simply by the two pictures that juliepoudrier posted that I would LOVE to come and visit her!!
  13. Now that someone has brought this up, I have always wondered if this is a trait related to the breed? My BCs have all been like that. They could go out and get filthy, and hours later, they were clean and bright...especially the white. And I had not witnessed them overly grooming their entire bodies. We have always marveled at that. I also would like to know the difference between a rough coat and a long hair BC.
  14. Years ago I had an 18 month GSD that had a gray muzzle from then to maturity. She was a "show dog" and it made it difficult when they would think she was an old dog in a young class. I had one rescue that one vet said was probably 2 yrs. old and another vet said 7 years. He lived to be what we determined to be 17-18, and if the one vet was correct, he would have been 23 (highly unlikely.) With rescues, a gray muzzle is only one factor. I had one shelter dog who's teeth made him look way older than he was. My vet chalked up bad teeth to bad breeding (genetics) and poor early nutrition. I wish they were like trees so you could count the rings and know their exact age!! And I love Cressa's photo of her three-headed border collie!! And Irish Collie, that is one beautiful dog you have there!
  15. I noticed no one has yet replied to this, so thought I'd take a stab at it. It had been many years since I had puppies, since I had taken a liking to shelter/rescue dogs that I acquired around 1 1/2 years old (love that age to get a dog - I think it's perfect - still young, but old enough to be over the puppy stages.) So 8 months ago, I got two puppies. I can remember bringing them home at 9 weeks and being totally amazed at what they learned and how quickly they learned. I know within days they were responding to "sit" and "come". I know at 12 weeks they could "figure 8" through my legs on command. They are like sponges; they absorb everything (including learning bad habits if you let that happen.) There was a short, solid tunnel in the play yard an they would go through it on command probably before 3 months. Learned to walk at my side by 4 months, maybe sooner, on leash. They learned agility ground work from the day I brought them home. I never thought about milestones in weeks for my dogs and have never held them to any. Like kids, I think every dog is different and every dog learns at its own rate. My two puppies have totally different personalities, and the way and rate one learns is not necessarily the way and rate the other does. Therefore, I do not hold them to any schedule when it comes to learning. One thing I do know is they are one heck of a lot of FUN!!
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