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  1. I have noticed that the advice to people looking to get a well bred border collie is often to attend trials. I'm curious about whether a "well bred" dog can simply be one that lives on a ranch and works all day? I would imagine that there are lots of really useful dogs out there working every day whose people maybe don't have time to attend trials. Are those dogs considered less well bred because there is no outside evaluation? If a farmer or rancher has dogs that do the job that he or she needs them to do, are healthy and get along with all of necessary characters, does that dog qualify as on
  2. Thank you for the response. I wasn't sure I was being clear when I wrote it: the specifics of my situation but more broadly speaking. What I meant was that there are people that live in places (like British Columbia) that don't have a lot of rescue dogs available, puppy or otherwise. And the only available options (as in choices) are the ones I listed. I in no way I meant that they were options for me personally but those are the "options" (good or bad) that are available to Joe public. What I was trying to get at is that I am a person that really gets what this board is saying about preservin
  3. My apologies for the length of this post. These thoughts have been swirling for a while and I'm trying to process them. While my thoughts are specific to my situation, I am more interested in people's thoughts generally. I would like to start by saying that I believe and adhere to the principles of this board in regard to working border collies. While I don't have a farm or work my dogs, I think that of course the breed will change for worse if dogs are not bred for working ability. My two dogs thus far have been unwanted dogs that we adopted. And I preach working dogs only and rescue (my
  4. Hi there, Due to the current pandemic, I am stuck on the Canada side of the closed border and my plans for a border collie pup for this summer have fizzled. So I have a bit of time on my hands and came across ranchworldads.com. Most of the dogs available through their site are listed as cow dogs. I'm curious as to what this means. Is it simply that border collies are so versatile that they can work cows just as easily as sheep? Or are they a subset that require a different skill set? I would imagine that dogs working cows would need to be more willing to physically move the animals.
  5. Hi, It has been many, many years since I've been on these boards and I always found the information here so useful. So I thought I'd ask the question here that my husband and I have been pondering. Like many people, I love puppies. So much. And our last "puppy" is now 11. Since he was a puppy, we've also had 3 kids, they are now 6, 8, 10. So we're a busy family. But our dog Orbit is very much a part of that busyness. And he hasn't slowed down much at all. He is our second dog (our OG border collie cross Laska died in 2011 when Orbit was 2), and he is just the best (as was Laska befor
  6. I don't really have much experience with super noise sensitive dogs. You said he likes other dogs. I wonder if it would be worthwhile to ask a friend with a confident dog along on your walk (maybe even tether them together?) to show him a more appropriate response, in addition to the desensitization.
  7. I never realised that there were places where police actually dealt with animal control issues. Here we have animal control officers that deal with by-law issues and the police deal with crimes.
  8. The problem here is that people do not even agree on the purpose and rules of off-leash dog parks. There are those that believe that dogs should have a place to go and just be dogs, without having to worry about their dogs every move. I am one of those people. While my dog has zero use for other dogs and we do not frequent parks where dogs play and socialise, we do go to off-leash forested areas for walks. I have 2 kids under four and have taught them to protect their snacks and sticks as best they can and I try to help them understand that sometimes dogs will eat a cracker out of your hand. I
  9. I would say that Vancouver is very dog-friendly. Almost all school grounds welcome off-leash dogs before 8 am and after 5 pm (although they are not allowed at the actual playground with equipment and such). There are designated dog beaches where dogs can be off-leash at all times and others where dogs are permitted off-leash during certain hours. Dogs on-leash are permitted almost everywhere and there are urban forests with both on-leash and off-leash sections. In general, dogs are very well mannered/adjusted here and in my nearly 15 years as a dog owner have never seen a real nasty dog fight
  10. I had a lab x pit x border collie for almost 13 years (adopted her at 1 1/2) and she was the most amazing dog ever. She was smart, reliable, intuitive and such a gentle soul. I know that there are a lot of horror stories out there about pits but I would encourage you to judge your by her actions and behaviour rather than condemn her for the actions of other dogs. As a puppy, she will most likely be a yahoo for some time, regardless of her breed. Whether she is a pittie or not, she should not be allowed to bother your older dog. Teach her good manners or keep them separated until she can b
  11. If Nelson is anything like my Orbit, it might just be something that you will have to manage. I will admit that I have not sought out professional assistance as I find that I can read him pretty well and do a pretty good job of avoiding altercations. But they do happen and they don't always end well. One thing that I did wrong when my guy was little was discourage the lead-up behaviours - the growling etc. Now his responses are lightning quick and while I can see them coming, often the other dog can't. Orbit is never the aggressor as it sounds like Nelson might be (but that might be somet
  12. I am wondering if displays of affection are a constant personality trait? Those of you that have bred litters or had many dogs from puppyhood, do you find that the pups that were snugglers at 8 weeks become snuggly adults (generally)? Do they go through shifts at puberty? And is it possible for reserved pups to eventually crave physical affection? I would imagine that if a reserved pup was paired with an owner that really craved physical affection, the pup would sense that pressure and might become even more reserved as a result. So nurture could actually be re-enforcing nature but
  13. I love my dog and he is a big part of our family but I also feel like I should not need to be a slave to his needs or his wants. We have two small children and a third on the way and there are days when everyone has to suck it up. These last few months have been really lean for him exercise wise but I swear that he knows that it is just short term. When we first got Orbit, it was just him and our senior dog so free time revolved around them. We planned outings that they would enjoy. However, we made a point never to play with them in the house. I know that this may seem extreme but I have
  14. Sorry that this is off-topic but do dogs really need life jackets? We live by the ocean so we are talking about beach access only but I have never seen a dog in a life jacket. And there are dogs that swim quite far out in sometimes rough surf. Are they used because some dogs actually can't swim or because you are worried if they fell out of the boat they would panic and drown? I would imagine that the life jacket would feel kind of odd to a dog unless they were used to carrying a pack.
  15. Donald, i'm not sure that I agree with you. Assuming that one is relatively new to dogs, one might not have the repertoire of relatively simple training techniques discussed here. I think that a forum such as this one (and this one in particular) is a great place to start to seek help for one's dog. It sounds like the OP has had the dog for a relatively short period of time and the behaviour does not sound extreme to me in the sense that it has not been something that the OP has been working on for a long time unsuccessfully. it is often suggested that people experiencing difficulties hire a
  16. I hear you on the toddler and border collie thing, it can be daunting. My suggestion would be to only take him in the yard when you are with him. I would attach him to a long line that gives him as much space as possible without allowing him to reach the fence. I would spend maybe 5 minutes at the beginning (after he relieves himself) and 5 minutes at the end to practice recall. I would vary the items I offer him for coming back; extra special treats, squeaky toys or whatever he loves. Make coming to you the best thing in the world. If you keep working on this, it will get easier. Training and
  17. Wow, was that really necessary? You never know a person's situation. First of all, I think that if a dog enjoys the company of other dogs, there is no reason that dog park visits can't be part of a border collie owners repertoire (if the park is usually frequented by reasonably well behaved dogs and people). Not everyone can devote all their time and energy to their dog. I think constructive suggestions are far more useful that snide remarks. Just my two cents.
  18. With my first dog, I initially went to the vet with a total belief that they knew best. After some experiences that left me (and my dog) feeling unsatisfied (one vet insisted that my 60 pound dog had to be on the examining table even though she was shaking, making me leave the room while examining etc.) I started looking around. I eventually found an amazing vet that loved animals, that was great with people and had a similar philosophy to mine. The first time she came in, she got right on the floor and started talking to my dog and getting to know her. When she retired and I had to find a new
  19. I have 2 young kids and a border collie and I have to say that for our dog, the most difficult kid stage was when they started walking until they hit about 2 1/2. Kids on the move that moved erratically and toppled over and ran around screaming scared him a great deal. I think that for the safety and welfare of both your dog and your child, if you can't get professional help, the dog deserves a chance at a better suited environment. Sorry.
  20. I have a five year old border collie and a 3 year old and a 1 year old. My dog, like yours was not raised around young children but unlike yours was not even particularly fond of well mannered kids. He tolerated them but was clearly waiting for them to leave. He still has no use for strange kids even though he loves his own now. He was however, very well trained and did not herd. As others have said, deal with that. Once the baby comes, you will not have the time nor the energy to deal with that sort of thing. I found that my dog did very well with the babies. They didn't really interfere with
  21. But even if the other dog is well behaved and somewhat trained, they are trained to someone else's standards and expectations. If your dog is the older dog, the one that is setting the example, then you are in essence getting training help from your already trained dog. Let's say you adopt an older dog that turns out to have some quirky behaviour, well your dog is still in a very impressionable stage and you may end up with two quirky dogs. My first dog was almost 10 when we got a puppy. It was not the plan exactly but that is how it worked out. He kept her young til the very end and boy d
  22. 9 children in one house sounds like a lot of activity for a young, sensitive dog to deal with. I only have 2 kids and my dog finds that overwhelming at times. I think your dog needs to have a safe place to go and I would cease all interaction between the dog and any children that make him nervous. I also think that your dog may need more activity during the day so that once the chaos begins, he can retreat somewhere quiet and doze off.
  23. It sounds like you are heading down the path of rehoming but I thought I would throw this out there anyway. I have a 5 year old border collie, a 3 1/2 year old and a 15 month old. When the first child started to walk, it made Orbit really uncomfortable because lets be honest, toddlers are unpredictable and a bit crazy. Orbit would send a warning growl when he was in a situation where he could not get away. There may have even been an air snap or two when he was startled. This was a dog that we had always tried to desensitize to random and even rough handling because we knew we would have c
  24. I have a dog that sounds very similar to yours except that my dog has no interest in other dogs period. I do not take him to the dog park when it is busy; there needs to be enough room for him to run after his ball far away from other dogs. If another dog comes over, I have him lie down and wait til the other dog leaves. Sometimes they don't and the people come over to get them. They often tell me that their dog is friendly. I explain to them that my dog does not appreciate interference while playing. That usually does the trick. I find off leash walks without toys work best for us. My guy
  25. I think that Xena could probably benefit from more variety in her exercise. The running around outside while tethered sounds a bit chaotic to me. It therefore makes sense that she gets really riled up, manic almost and then has a hard time calming down. I would add something to that routine as a bridge activity between playing outside like a banshee and being put up inside. Maybe you could do some grooming or belly rubs. Or maybe a frozen peanut butter kong, If you need to have her run around with a toy outside as her main activity, I would use a different toy each time (frisbee, kong, jol
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