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  1. Thank you for the responses offered! I am looking forward to Donald's response to Robin's question about why it is so risky to run a young dog in both Nursery and Open, as I think that it would be insightful. I think that I will have to ask around a bit about the other questions I asked: now I am really wondering about this Nursery/Open thing, which seems a bit ambiguous to me. Karrin
  2. Hmmm. Please tell me that you are not serious about this. If so, my dogs will surely need therapy after I turn down their requests for "Nursery Class of 2010" hoodies. Although as a teacher, I respect the education analogy (however incongruous)....but seriously, Robin- please elaborate, because I can not see how "peers" or "class year" could possibly be an issue. Karrin
  3. This is how I understand the purpose of the Nursery program to be, also. But this still does not answer my question, why is it appropriate to compete in both at the National Finals? I am not suggesting that it is inappropriate (in fact, I think that I may be a part sponsor of one of these teams), I don’t understand what is the benefit. Maybe it seems obvious to others (especially to those that have dogs running in trials), but honestly, I can not understand. As a spectator coming to watch the National Finals, I see the same dog/handler team run in the Nursery and the Open class. To the spectator, the Open class course looks to be more difficult than the Nursery course. Bob, if you were just to tell me what you just said in your post, my first question to you would be, if this “special” dog is so good, has the stamina and is a proven competitor in Open, why still be in Nursery? Does Open not showcase the talents of the dog, as well? Karrin ETA: Or, perhaps a more worthwhile question would be: If the Nursery class is meant to showcase the talents of the young dogs that are capable of running at the Open level, why doesn't the Nursery course have the same elements as the Open course? This would still showcase the "special" dogs, and prove that they can compete at the Open level.
  4. Yes, I see this. Correct me if I am wrong, but in theory, isn't the Nursery course less difficult that the Open course because there is no shed? To me, this suggests that there is a reason for the course being less challenging; and because of the age requirements of the Nursery program, I would guess that this is because the younger dogs lack the experience (as Donald seemed to imply) to be successful on the Open course. However, if a dog/handler team has demonstrated mastery of the Open course regardless of age (and if one has competed and qualified for the National Finals in Open, that signifies to me that one has achieved a certain level of mastery, and is certainly a contender for National Champion), then why is it also appropriate that the same team can compete in a lower class? This is why I find the idea of qualifying and competing in both classes so confusing. Karrin
  5. OK, that definitely makes sense. To be clear, I was not asking to single out one particular person or case. Further, I do not have the dog or ability to run in any class, so I am not passing judgment. I asked the original question because I think that maybe I am not understanding the purpose of the Nursery class. The significance of Nursery, I thought, was for the up-and-coming youngsters. In the case of the Finals, is the Nursery course the same as the Open course, without the (ETA: shed or) international shed? I assumed that once a dog was good enough and qualified for Open, then running in Nursery would be superfluous (even if it is still qualified under Nursery rules). Karrin
  6. Thank you for replying- could it be then, if this scenario did by chance occur at the National Finals, the same dog/handler team could be Nursery Champion, as well as National Champion? That is interesting. Has this ever been the case? Karrin
  7. Hi all: This may be an elementary question (borne of pure curiosity) but can the same handler run the same dog in two different classes at the same USBCHA or CBCA sanctioned trial? A hypothetical example: I am running Jack in Nursery and Open at the National Finals. Thanks, Karrin
  8. Great article; I really enjoyed it. Good for Nigel- maybe we'll be lucky enough to see him run Rex here one day! Karrin
  9. Great work, Julie- thanks for sharing this. Ranger is really coming along. Karrin
  10. Well, if you are going to WI, there's really no harm in stopping in Chicago for dinner. We are short on sheep, but we have plenty of our delicious Jack the Gripper Bourbon County Ale™ to share. Karrin
  11. Ben, I had completely forgotten about the yarn. What a nice surprise to come home from work to find it in the mailbox! It is gorgeous!! This is the first "real" yarn that I have ever had, and I can't wait to knit something. A very kind gesture from you, and I am sure that the other lucky recipients are just as pleased. Thank you so much! Karrin
  12. When I was training my dogs, we would travel between 3.5 hours and 6.5 hours (one way) for different clinics, training, and volunteering/viewing trials. I started with someone closer (about 1.5 - 2 hrs.) but that trainer didn't exactly work out, so I opted for better quality over better mileage. Karrin
  13. I am sorry that you do not see the value in what I am suggesting. I thought that I saw a USBCHA or ABCA bylaw once that discussed member conduct, but as someone who is not a member of any of the discussed organizations, I do not know how they operate. It seems as though my suggestions are far too simplistic. There are obviously many factors here of which I am unaware, and it is true that others are far more informed than I. It is also probably not at all appropriate for me to make any suggestions as someone who knows very little about the situation. I do wish all the best, and hope that the working community finds an answer to the issues discussed! Karrin
  14. Perhaps my case is unique. I certainly do not think that shoddy training or breeding is the norm, nor did I mean to imply that it was. I am not advocating training certification, Eileen. I do not think that is the answer, either. But what I am saying is that if truly interested in educating the public about working border collies (whether or not one wants to increase the size of the community), one can not let the most visible, top people go out to the public and recruit new people using the USBCHA or ABCA names, then use training or breeding practices unbecoming of the working border collie community. What is unbecoming, decide for yourselves. All I am suggesting is that rather than looking how to solve the problem by preventing the other side from advancing, the working border collie community should look at itself first. What exactly is the goal? Then look within to make sure that everything within its own control is being covered as it should be. If not, deal with it appropriately - do not turn a blind eye because everyone should be in charge of their own reputation and choices. To me- a newcomer - that is what I would suggest. Karrin
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