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  1. OK everyone mea culpa, mea culpa. I got defensive as the first response I received really left a bad taste in my mouth and really was too strong given the desire to solve the problem constructively. I do agree with the unintended consequences comments but was probably too close to see that. We exercise in a 10-acre field that may have 3-4 soccer or softball games going on at any one time and this may be too distracting or tempting for her to resist. I like the comment listed below and thanks for your feedback guys! rushdoggie: In your shoes, I would stop playing ball in uncontrolled environments and go back to teaching a reliable release, rewarded with what she wants more than anything else, the next ball thrown. In the yard, not too far, keep the arousal level down. Reward with the second ball for any attempt at dropping it.
  2. First off, my first post was slightly inaccurate as I was referring to when I first used the e-collar. After the first month, I never had to use the shock mode as she responded quite well to vibrate only. That being said . . . I have had BC's for almost 15 years now so this isn't my first experience. I actually did use the two ball trick for quite some time and that worked well. My actual first use of an e-collar was due to the fact that her being so immature, she would seek out everyone in sight like 700-800 yards away and try and play with them which made for some very embarrassing and dangerous moments in recreational sports games like other peoples soccer matches, etc. She has since learned to listen and not join in everyone's events. Please don't call it a "shock collar" when I actually use it as a "vibrate collar". That's not an electrical stimulation but a distinct variant that lets her know that we aren't playing keep away as. like I said earlier, she always drops it after one or two vibrates. Also, she has already brought it back or I am already where she is so there is no remote activation. But she reached a block point where she just doesn't bring balls all the way back but prefers me to come after her whereby she usually drops it. 99% of the time, one or two vibrates communicates to her that we aren't playing keep away . . . but it hasn't gotten any better, hence this post. Since she's learned the vibrate, I can't recall using the shock mode as I wouldn't actually want to hurt her, who would? I think she actually likes the keep away game as I can instantly tell when she's playing it as she runs watching me sideways over her shoulder. It might be simply that she's developed some hybrid of the two games and flip-flops back and forth between them.
  3. Dearest Gentle, Thanks so very for trying and convicting me on such a small partial slice of information, so helpful. I did not say that the only reason I use a training collar was for release issues, but you obviously know much more than I ever will. The actual primary reason for the training collar is to keep her out of crowded areas playing sports games and away from busy places that have potentially dangerous access to traffic. A 35 on one of those collars is quite mild as I actually tested it on myself first and it's pretty darn gentle. Seriously, you might have a problem as you actually did not read my post accurately but instead, jumped to conclusions. Pretty typical knee jerk anonymous response from an on-line forum, feeling better about yourself now?
  4. My 3-year-old BC is coming along in training and she is a monster ball chasing dog. Her "issue" is that she will not bring the ball back or release it easily. If there is anyone else on the field, she will run up to them and drop the ball right in front of them and wait until they throw it for her, for me, not so much. I use a Mini Educator if she doesn't release, giving her 3 vibrate warnings and then a low (35) pop if she still will not release. Sometimes if I don't have the Educator with me she will release upon the "drop it" command but not always. Another weird thing she does is release the ball in the worst location she can find: like the only hole under a downward sloping fence or hidden in ivy, it's almost like a game of keep away. She does like chasing balls as she would do it all day if I let her. Any thought on how I can work with her to return the ball and release it? I do praise her and pet her when she gets close but it's hit or miss.
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