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  1. Thanks for this reference, Kristine. I had been thinking about it, along with general conditioning for my two. One--who has no concept of slow when we're out & about offleash--recently either sprained a knee or had some other structural thing "go out"; and the other was cooped up in a backyard for ~ 2 years and it shows when he's out offleash. We'll be working on warming up going forward. I should add though that when they've been tearing around for quite a while i make sure we walk or trot around a bit until their breathing settles down--even though it means I have to keep the first goi
  2. Keep in mind that at that young age, dogs go through fear stages. So, new owner, not well socialized and stages. I like to let my dog process whatever they're reacting to and give them lots of time to inspect or investigate. Food works well to counter condition them too depending on what you're dealing with. You can help by remaining calm even they are not.
  3. Hi Kristine: 1. from a BC magazine & an assundry of training books...although I had heard of it prior to this. 2. I'm fascinated mostly by the clicker as marker; how else to really target that specific moment when the dog responded in the way you intended / hoped. I also think the sharp sound provides a little excitement for them as well. 3. Depends on the behavior. But i will typically use it when starting something new...or moving on to next steps, and the it is not "got it right away" thing. 4. No. 5. Yes; Agility for Reactives. But we were really working on the very very ba
  4. EDIT: In my experience, in the PNW, the second is generally done regardless of how you may characterize the adopter.
  5. That's an interesting thought...I've been thinking a lot about lately. I love my farm dogs Edited out~ to save space. Becca, with all due respect; an awful lot of bc's end up in the HS, and many operate thus: no questions asked. No records provided. BC rescuers find these dogs and pull them. EDITED OUT - self-correction. Many other bc owners (pet, sport & ranch) often accept a pound bc for their purposes. The question posed is very realistic for this PNW region.
  6. Autumn: You are not alone. I too have handled full coated, fully combed out NOT FAT bc's. Believe it or not. Also some of the outspoken folks here in fact do not have pure ABCA dogs. 'Wonder what's up with that.
  7. Autumn: Good for you for doing what you can with your dog. I'm not sure why some USBCHA-er's need to be looking over the shoulder of the "other guys" so obsessively. The split was made; NB is established. BTW: can someone point me a pedigree decipher-er? I'm interested in an arcane fact, which is the percentages of nationality in the dog's lines. Example: Scottish: 15%; Welsch: 37%; English: 21%; Irish: 0%; Continental: 0% (numbers are only representational in this case.)
  8. So i just read a communique by the Leaders of the EDIT: [formerly: USBCHA] ABCA which called BC owners as "liberterians". Here here!!! In that spirit, about fat dogs, I will also say that the heavy coated, well brushed out bc's you see are not necessarily fat. You do indeed need to put your hands on them. That said my mutts are ~ 3 - 5 lbs overweight. Sportmanship: "conduct considered fitting for a sportsperson, including observance of the rules of fair play, respect for others, and graciousnes..."
  9. Dissing: turning head up and away, and then walking away and then no contact of any kind for ~ three hours, in this case. No talking, no eye contact, no nothing. To me, he wasn't there. He was free to move around....and actually shadowed me just about the entire time. Actually, i think i gave him a timeout (mudroom) for about 5 minutes first, thinking about what to do next. Can't really recall the details as I said. I recall thinking that it was a full-of-himself-dog wanting to command the household. He growled at me and probably threw in a little pretend nip. It was borderline. An
  10. Thanks everyone. In case interested, i used a form of ignoring (dissing) when one of my stinkers growled inappropriately at me--~ couple weeks prior to Christmas. Was easy to do, as *I* had so much to do. Anyway, it seemed to have worked. I think that he *got* that it was time to stop these type of growlies (wrinkly nose & all) around me. I can't recall any details any more, just that it felt really uncalled for. Now it does NOT work on the other stinker when & who can practically crawl up one's back in that "glad to see you" frenzy. Darn.
  11. Hi Sunny Day: Do you know anything else about the dusty air? Why Phoenix & the San Joaquin valley in CA? (just smog or ????). We also have very dusty air.....
  12. Jack & Co, are you there? What was the point of this? EDIT: a flyby correction?
  13. EDIT due to typo: Not sure why you think I'm seeing you as rude & challenging. I'm not. But you did correct me, and I accept corrections. I DID note the edit in the thread about the books...I removed the original "poster's note" about the counter conditioning stuff not being all that pc for this board. The second post was completely rewritten...I thought it was important to give testimony to the help I had received from the CU book.
  14. Oh, I have the bad habit of drafting, sending, reviewing, editing, sending, revising.....This compose interface is not the best...certainly not wysiwyg. I should stop using it from drafting my thoughts. Completed thought is now sent above.
  15. Hi Jack & Co.: Hmmm. Oh, I have the bad habit of drafting, sending, reviewing, editing, sending, revising.....This compose interface is not the best...certainly not wysiwyg. I should stop using it from drafting my thoughts. I do *sometimes* but not often edit my post...but not generally completely UNLESS someone complains, there's been a vociferous or obvious misinterpretation of what I've written, I didn't take enough time to collect my thoughts before "sending", or I wasn't being respectful. I generally DO mark the "Edit" when for example, it's been a day or so, and I've t
  16. The CU techniques work. My foster was snarly and fangy, but not exactly in the way you describe. In a group setting, we used some of the CU techniques and the dog relaxed and was able to refocus on me and the training at hand. EDIT: I also want to add though that I didn't raise this dog and so I felt I needed to establish trust with him, and that is where the CU techniques were helpful. I'm not sure what I would do if I had raised the dog and he was showing too much aggression.
  17. You know, this makes more sense to me than "desire to please/ works for praise"- which sorry to say, I've just never been tuned into as an underlying dog training philosophy. Your other statement about bc's needing it especially because they will establish the wrong habit so quickly--is great. Very clarifying -- not as vague. I agree completely. RDM - even though you are such a pill ...I will agree with this statement you made above: . I'm not one of the gifted ones either--and yet like Sue & Ed I do on ocassion receive compliments about how my dogs behave in public, and so I
  18. About Karen Overall's Book: Essential reading for anyone serious about animals, June 13, 2001 By E. TeSelle "pawsplus" (Nashville, TN United States) - See all my reviews I have consulted with Dr. Overall in the treatment of a dog we rescued who has OCD, and in addition, I have also read her book cover to cover three times. There are a lot of books on this topic -- both for veterinarians and for lay people -- out there, but this one is the best. Dr. Overall, unlike a number of vets (even veterinary behaviorists) truly understands the nature of dog behavior -- and the importance
  19. I like Bill's list too. It was entertaining. In that spirit of friendly banter: Dogs: “They’re” the ones with the weird dogs, and if one of our dog’s has a problem, it’s because of something “they” did. It’s true because we say so. Handlers: All good handlers are us; all others are “them” “Honest Inquiry” is what them wacked-out, wimpy folks (but not liberals, mind you) do with wacko dogs. Questions: if you hear any, it must be them ACK folks, or those agility flyball sport nuts, or those ….permissive, selfish, pawsitive nut cases. There are two kinds of folks who come t
  20. Edit: Chuckle Edit: Edited to be more polite.
  21. Lenajo: You seem to have a penchant for either dismissing the messenger, or the response if it's not fully aligned with your thinking.
  22. Nah. This Board. On topic.... Your quote: "Working stockdogs of quality are still relatively easy to find, but the break between them and the show, sport, and backyard lines is widening at a cataclysmic rate." Hmmm, I recall BC's from decades ago...before the "cataclysmic break" you point to, that were not "keen on stock" and very much NOT included in the AKC registries either. Same behaviors were seen....nippy et al. Fully recognizing that this board is focused on the working bc's.
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