Report Training treats considered as detrimental in General Border Collie Discussion Posted December 30, 2013 Please do read this before your dogs get into real trouble - http://www.suzanneclothier.com/the-articles/he-just-wants-say-hi I totally agree with those who have pointed out that dogs that are allowed to approach others without permission are not under control. If you cannot call the dog off then it should not be off lead. If you can call it off then you should do so while you establish whether it is OK for it to approach another. Our dogs are taught not to approach others unless told it's OK. We mostly meet dogs that have been taught the same but just lately our collie (that doesn't like his space invaded by strange dogs) has been subjected to the attentions of various dogs whose owners thought it was fine to let theirs be so rude - dogs ranging in size from a greyhound to a couple of dachshunds. He behaved with considerable restraint which has taken years to achieve and I don't want it ruined by unthinking owners. And this is one of the reasons I rarely go to dog parks. I get annoyed at people assuming if you brought your dog to a dog park, of course you want your dog to socialize with every other dog there and therefore it's okay for their unmannered dog to run up to yours. The only times I've ever gone to dogparks I've tried to do it at times when few other people would be there, because I have absolutely no interest in the social aspect and neither do most of my dogs. The Belgians enjoy a playmate now and then, but the border collies are pretty much all about me and aren't even interested in playing with each other. One of them will get pretty snarky if some lab-type dog keeps trying to instigate an interaction, and then of course my dog is the 'bad' dog for saying 'buzz off sucker' no matter how appropriate she is. The others just try to avoid the interaction and I can see them getting stressed when the other dog just won't quit bothering them, and then I have to be the bad guy and ask the other owner to call their dog (if they're even in sight) which forces me into a social interaction I didn't want - or if no owner is in sight then I have to threaten that dog to get it to leave (which worries my dogs too, and kind of worries me if it's some shepherd or pit bull type). There is no way to win and it just takes one stupid owner to ruin it. I just wanted the space for my dogs to run freely instead of being on leash or even off leash but having to stay within a couple feet of me. I used to live in an apartment (before my first border collie) and now I have a small yard and crappy neighbors with dogs that fence run and bark, so the yard is mostly for potty duty and a bit of wandering around, not real exercise. They get a lot of exercise with training and walks, but nothing beats a nice relaxed off leash walk where they can roam freely around me and not be restricted to my pace and my exact path. They can run ahead, run back, loop around behind me, sniff things, range to the side, cross back and forth in front of me, etc. If I did that on a typical neighborhood sidewalk they'd be in the street half the time, and if I'm going to make them walk right next to me on a narrow sidewalk, then they might as well just have a leash on anyway. I'd trust them to stick with me off leash, but given the fact that anything more than four feet away puts them into a road, there just doesn't seem to be a benefit to ignore the local leash laws and risk getting into trouble for it.