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  1. This could potenially be giardia. One of my Border Collies developed a swollen abdomen on Thanksgiving night several years ago. I rushed her to the emergency vet. She had very low protein and was leaking fluid from her intestines into her abdomen. I was told it could be many things. It turned out to be due to a very heavy load of giardia. If your vet did not do a stool sample and the liver and kidney values looked okay on the blood work, I'd have him do a fecal immediately. Jen
  2. Great news! I am certain that Dr. Northington will be able to help you get better control of Rocket's seizures. Keep us posted! Jen
  3. I am so glad you are taking Rocket to Dr. Northington. You will not be asked to leave the room. Make sure you have your regular vet fax all of Rocket's records over to Metropolitian before your visit. If you have not had recent blood work done, they may ask you to do it. Dr. Northington is very good with the dogs and he is very willing to listen and discuss options. Let us know how things go. Best, Jen
  4. I would suggest a trip to Dr. Northington. He is Fever's neurologist. He is accessible to regular patients via email once he sees your dog. This was an absolute lifesaver for me. My appointment was $125. I also order Fever's potassium bromide from them directly. It costs $48 for about a five month supply. I order her other medication, she is on zonisamide, a human anti-convulsant, from Costco because Dr. Northington told me to as it is cheapest through them. I believe they also can provide phenobarbital if that's what he decides to put your dog on. They mail medication directly to my house. Dr. Northington requires blood work once every 12 months and for the dog to see him - bearing any complications or need - once every 24 months. I cannot say enough good things about him. I have referred several people to him, two who drove several hours for an appointment. Here is his contact information: http://www.metro-vet.com/ 2626 Van Buren Avenue Norristown, PA 19403 610-666-1050 Best, Jen
  5. Actually, neither of the two medications most commonly used to treat epilepsy in dogs are very expensive. You absolutely must get your dog on medication. I would strongly suggest that you find a veterinary neurologist and make an appointment. I spent close to $1500 dollars at my regular vet on testing and treatment before I ended up seeing a neurologist. Not only was the appointment very reasonable in cost, but under his expert care, my Border Collie has now been seizure free for over 15 months. I chose a rather expensive medication after discussion with Fever's neurologist because of the lower risk of side effects. However there are many options available now and quite a few, as I mentioned are reasonable in cost. The two most common are both decent in price, they are potassium or sodium bromide and/or phenobarbital. If your Border Collie has consistently had seizures since he was one and they are getting worse, I am afraid that they will continue to do so without the intervention of medication. There is an increased risk, with more severe or prolonged seizures of permanent brain damage, possible neurological damage, loss of vision or hearing or other problems. I am not sure where you live. If you are in or close to PA or NJ, I can give you two neurologist references. If you are in a different state, consult your local vet for a referral to a neurologist. Best regards, Jen Shipley ADCH Enna TM - Silver, MX, MXJ - rescued champion Ignited's Molten Rush, aka: Lava AAD Rising Sun's Hot to the Touch - aka: Fever - retired due to epilepsy Flute AAD, AX, OAJ, OAC, OGC, NAJ - retired
  6. Bimmer's Border Collie Rescue is trying to pull a very nice, young Border Collie from a shelter in Mt Vernon. We have a vet willing to pull her, give her a rabies vac and a health cert., a group willing to bring her back to PA for foster, and a volunteer willing to pick her up from the vet and start her on the way to Morehead to the Rowan shelter where the outreach group will be. I just need one person willing to meet the Mt Vernon person and help get the dog to Morehead. Does anyone know anyone I can ask? Thank you!!! Jen Shipley
  7. I have a very experienced vet who I love who is a certified laser surgeon. I had my 5 year old Border Collie spayed in the regular fashion several years ago. Her incision was very small - about the same as your first dog's. I just had my young Border Collie spayed and she was also laser spayed, which typically is an even smaller incision. However, it all depends on what the vet finds when they get in there. My youngster's incision was probably 4 or 4 1/2 inches long. Things tend to move around in there, especially if the dog is fully mature and it is even worse sometimes in dogs who have had litters. Sometimes the vet has to enlarge the incision based on what she finds when she get inside. My vet has literally had ovaries up near a bitch's armpits. It may be the inexperience of the vet or it may very well be that some of your girl's equipment had ended up in some hard to reach places. Best, Jen ADCH Enna TM - Silver, MX, MXJ - rescued champion Ignited's Molten Rush, aka: Lava AD Rising Sun's Hot to the Touch - aka: Fever - retired due to epilepsy Flute AAD, AX, OAJ, OAC, OGC, NAJ - retired
  8. "I don't completely agree with your reasoning that because the chemical comes from a plant that it is automatically safer than "chemical poisons." That's not what I said at all. I listed specific items, I have never actually made any type of general statement about natural chemicals being safe because they are natural. Cobra venom comes instantly to mind. Frankly, the ever increasing amount of supplements and natural remedies available all over the place now is kind of scary to me. I was handing Fever over 15 supplements a day at one point at my most frantic when her epilepsy first surfaced. Everywhere I turned I found a new list of supplements the would prevent seizures. I still run into people all of the time who tell me about X or Y who put their dog on blank and got them off medication. I went back to a raw diet, filter my dog's drinking water, and took them off almost everything. They get a joint supplement, fish oil, my old dog gets some supplements that help with arthritis and cranberry and that's it. Fever is on 2 types of medication to prevent seizures. I reasearch carefully and discuss something I am going to try with my holistic vet or a friend who is a homeopath before I use it and keep supplements to a minimum. "And the big drawback to many natural products is that clinical test data is lacking (not saying that the available test data for manmade products is stellar, but at least some exists)" I buy organic essential oils from a reputable company. And it is great that test data exists for manmade products, however I have yet to read multiple news articles or heard that the FDA is researching the safety of rose geranium essential oil, for example, as they are topical flea and tick products. To my knowledge, there haven't been multiple class action suits against a company selling essential oils as there have been against the maker of Rimadyl. Testing doesn't make something any safer necessarily either. And if something (phen phen comes to mind)is a natural product and causes serious adverse side effects, it gets discussed in the media. "over a period of years than does someone using manmade products. You think it's safer because it's derived directly from a natural living plant, but the data that supports those ideas doesn't really exist as far as I know." You are absolutely right. But my original point was and still remains that there is very clear proof that the manmade topical flea and tick products are in fact dangerious, can cause death and have caused many, many adverse reactions in dogs, often very serious ones. "And as for the "would you put it on your kids?" question, it's really not a valid comparison since companion animals have shorter lifespans and metabolize things differently than we do." Cancer in dogs is increasing every year, exponentially. Why do you think that is? And for those people who have kids and use topical flea and tick products, do you actually think your kids are not exposed to what is on your dogs? I know I don't want to be exposed to it any more then I want it on my dogs, personally. "I am not trying to be an apologist for the chemical manufacturers or anyone else. I use manmade chemicals when I think it makes sense to do so, and I use alternative medicine products when I think it makes sense to do so. I just think we need to be clear about claims of safety and efficacy in the face of a lack of data that supports such claims." Here we will have to agree to disagree. I will use a product that doesn't have any documented, undiscovered reaction or adverse effects over a product with repeated, documented cases that it already does. Herbalists and holistic practioners have been using essential oils, herbs, etc. for many, many years. I am much more confident that they would make any potential side effects known. I certainly don't trust drug companies - take Pfizer, for example, who tried to literally pay my friend off for her silence when her dog suffered a permanent, serious autoimmune disease caused byt one of their rabies shots and diagnosed in writing by U of P Vet Hospital - or who only attempted to make the formula of Rimadyl safer, my favorite example - after several class action lawsuits were settled. Best, Jen
  9. Okay, I think this worked now. I am actually keeping my eye out for someone selling an old coop or large old dog house I can modify cheap. I am thinking of getting a few chickens and letting them have the range of the yard. Not guineas though, because of the carrying on.
  10. simply reasoning that a natural product wouldn't be likely to harm their pet). *I actually think you aren't giving the majority of dog owners enough credit. We aren't talking about your garden variety, buy Beneful and Hartz flea collars at the grocery store dog owner, but I would say that most pet owners do a bit of research or ask their vets before using a product. After the mass recall a few years ago, people are more cautious. I'm not opposed to people using whatever works for them, but ISTM that lack of reports of adverse reactions doesn't necessarily mean any product is safe for an individual dog. *Topical, conventional flea and tick preventavies are insecticides -poisons. I think people should be very clear about exactly what they are putting on their dogs or cats before they decide to do so. For those that use these year round or for several months at a time, this means constant, long term exposure to poisons. Would you use the same type of product on your children long term? I've considered using essential oils, but because I also have cats, I have to be concerned about the adverse (toxic) effects on them as well. *I would suggest discussing them with a holistic vet who can recommend those he or she feels will be effective without harming your cat. Essential oils from plants like lavendar and rose geramnium repel insects, they aren't insecticide although there are some plant extracts that do kill insects. The plants developed methods to protect themselves from insects which we borrow. There are times of the year where my property is muddy and I exercise my dogs off property almost every day. If I am doing so, I need to apply the spray containing essential oils each time I am planning to go. Well, um, if the tick is engorged, how did it do THAT with paralyzed mouth parts? *I have spoken to my own vet and other vets who all believe that the transmission times are not really concrete. The risk is higher the longer the tick is attached, common knowledge, but that doesn't really tell you that the bacteria cannot be transmitted before the 36 hour mark. Anyway, I mainly just wanted to point out to others who might be reading this thread that absence of reporting doesn't equal absence of actual adverse effects. * True, yet it doesn't change the fact that conventional topicals are poisons that kill instects that people are putting on their pets for long periods of time. PS. I can't figure out how to use the quote function on the new format. Jen
  11. Mark - I undertand that things in nature contain chemicals. I get your point. However, I chose the items I chose on the recommendation of my holistic vet who, by the way, does not sell any of the conventional topicals or use them on her own dogs. There have been many reported cases of adverse reactions caused by the topical flea and tick products - Frontline, Frontline Plus, Advantix, Bio Spot, etc. and some deaths. FINALLY this is being studied, which is backwards in my opinion, but typical of medications sold for pets. I have never read or heard about a severe adverse reaction or death caused by Buck Mountain Parasite Dust or essential oil spray. I am careful about what essential oils I do use, due to my dog's epilepsy, also discussed with my vet, but I find they are very effective. Products are on the market for dogs that carry a risk of serious, adverse reaction that can lead to death. These products would not be approved for use in humans with the same level of risk involved. If you want a great example of this, um - Rimadyl. It started out a possible human drug, had the risk of horrible side effects, now it is being pushed extensively for dogs. There is no concrete proof of how long a tick actually has to be attached to a dog before Lyme or other TBDs are transmitted. My dog's litter mate, my mother's dog and two good friend's dogs all were current on Frontline, applied properly and all ended up with Lyme. My dog's sister had Lyme, RMSF and Elirchisosis all at once and almost died. The myth that topical insecticides do not permeate the skin is simply not true. Do the natural alternatives present a risk of adverse reaction? Perhaps. When cases are reported as they are with the conventional topicals, well I may rethink what I use on my dogs - again. Best, Jen
  12. Julie - I live on about 1.4 acres - about 2/3 or a little less of which is fenced. I have plenty of bugs, just battled a Carpenter ant infestation in my kitchen this summer. I also have frogs, toads, turtles that pass thru, etc. I treated 3 summers ago quite a bit. When I moved there there was a very heavy tick population. The summer before this last summer, I think I sprayed with Dove once in or around the beginning of June. I had a few dog ticks show up. This past summer I did not have to do a thing. My yard is kept in such a way that it is unfriendly for ticks, and I keep a well cleared perimeter between my yard and the wooded property surrounding the fence. If I had a farm or if I moved to a larger property - I would make my own tick tubes and put them out twice a year, use sulfur and lime on the ground and perhaps put up deer rubs if necessary. I know people who have used all three, have a lot more property in my area and have had success with those methods. Oh, and if I didn't live in suburbia where the neighbors would be less then pleased, I would have Guinea Hens. Best, Jen
  13. I do not use any chemical based topical or oral tick or flea preventatives despite living in a very high density area for Lyme. One of my dogs has epilepsy and her vet feels any topicals on her or the dogs that share household space would be risky. Before having a dog with epilepsy, I rarely used any of those producets and stopped using all together any of the products a few years ago. I strongly feel that the products are not safe or healthy. I feel the exact same way about the vaccines available. I also happen to know four people personally whose dogs all became infected with Lyme, 2 with other TBDs as well, while their owners were regularly using Frontline. My dogs, Fever did have Lyme. We treated with an aggressive dose of Doxy, supporting with milk thistle and SAM E and followed that with 90 days of Teasel based on the suggestion of a herbalist who has used it successfully to treat Lyme in people. Fever is now negative on a Snap4. I also have a dog who tests positive but has never shown symptoms. Although the vet is retired and I cannot get records, there is a possibility that she received a Lyme vaccine before I knew better. I know that my dog that passe 3 years ago of renal failure did recieve a Lyme vaccine. I have treated my dog who tests positive with Doxy and I will either of my other two dogs with Doxy if they ever show positive on a Snap4. Instead of using insecticides on my dogs, I put quite a bit of effort into treating my property. While this was a bit of work during the first years, I spend very little time treating the yard now at all. I have had exactly 2 dog ticks appear on my dogs in the past 2 years and no deer ticks. I did remove the dogs from the property for 48 hours and treat with an insecticide once, mow and remove the cuttings and then followed up dish soap in a hose sprayer every 3 weeks or so. I keep a perimter around the fenced area of my yard well cleared. When off property I used Buck Mountain Parasite Dust and an essential oil spray made out of rose geranium and lavender oils in vodka and distilled water. Interestingly enough, I attended an agility trial the weekend before last and the only dog I pulled any deer ticks off of was my foster dog who came treated with Frontline less then 30 days ago. Best, Jen ADCH Enna TM - Silver, MX, MXJ - rescued champion Ignited's Molten Rush, aka: Lava Rising Sun's Hot to the Touch - aka: Fever - retired due to epilepsy Flute AAD, AX, OAJ, OAC, OGC, NAJ - retired
  14. I just watched the 2nd video, which I missed when reading the trail of posts the first time. Pip very clearly told anyone who was listening that he was not comfortable with greeting the dog on the video. I could see the reaction coming way before it happened. This wasn't this reaction of a dog aggressive dog, but a dog who is fearful and unsure of other dogs. I also see clear signals that Pip is worried and unsure about the other dog throughout the second video. I know that many on the board consider herding behavior when not directed at livestock prey drive, I personally feel its all the same thing and I have seen many Border Collies who intently follow other dogs around as if they were herding a flock of sheep and who are completely focused on doing so. I think you have that going on as well as fear and uncertainty in how to go about interacting with the other dogs. I don't see an aggressive or dangerous dog, but I can certainly sympathize with your concern. I would not subject my own dogs to the stress of having this type of dog in their home. Its not an easy siutation. You have your hands full and the situation for Pip is not ideal since there are many dogs and you don't have a place where he can be without seeing or hearing them. I would address how he is to behave when crated or separated and keep him as far away from the other dogs as possible when you are crating him. I'd exercise him as much as is safe for him while he recovers as often as is safe. I would try to teach him to play with toys and interact with you. I'd expose him to the dogs behind a baby gate or fence while supervised for as many brief periods as you can and I would provide carefully controlled and very brief periods of time where he is near other dogs but not allowed to practice the herding behavior and not approached for now by the other dogs. I would immediatly be doing some clicker and food work and this dog would eat only while working so that he gets as clicker motivated as possible as quickly as possible. I would then use the clicker to reward behavior near the dogs. If you can get him to turn his focus from the other dogs when asked and you can get him to relax in the presence of the other dogs, you may be able to move forward and get him properly engaging with them. I did see two instances on the videos that I felt were definitely the awkward, and hesitant, but obvious invitations to play. Best, Jen
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