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Amelia Smith

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  1. Hello all, I thinks it's good for people to take and learn from more than one person and if and when my students go to others, I support them. what bothers me is when people choose a trainer based on popularity or likeability instead of talent. if you want to learn to handle sheepdogs, go to someone who has been successful with them, not a "cowdog hand" or a sport dog trainer, or a barbie collie aficianado. go to someone who has demonstrated success in whatever it is you are trying to learn, either through success on the trial field (look at the USBCHA points) or on the farm. just because you like them, or don't like them as a person doesn't mean that they can't train you and/or your dog better than the person that you like as a friend. If you want to learn to trial sheepdogs and your trainer doesn't have any HA sheepdog points, then it's likely you're not getting very good help. and if your trainer is protective about your taking from others, i would have to wonder what they're afraid of. i'm only speaking in general and not about any trainers mentioned in this thread. I don't know who you're referring to and it's not relavent to my reply. cheers all
  2. Pearse, you misunderstood what i wrote. I do not believe that Canada doesn't have enough top notch handlers to make a team. I know they do. They've won our national finals the last 2 years and have been reserve at least twice that i can think of, maybe more. They were 1st and 2nd at Meeker last year and we in the US don't see all the great dogs they have because some don't cross the border to trial. I suggested a combination only as something to consider and my reasoning is that together the US and Canada would field a much stronger team then separately. Especially if you take Sarah Boudreau's great suggestion of limiting the number of dogs to something that we could more easily support financially. If, for instance, the team consisted of only 5 dogs a combined US, Canada team would be what I would like to see, but your point about raising our game by sending more dogs is valid. That said, it would be nice to win and I believe Canada and US have enough of the right stuff to do it. Hell, I think I can win every time I go to the post so best to take what I say with a grain of salt.
  3. Posted this to Bill Gary's forum and Hub suggested if it's important to us we should light a fire under our directors. www.kensmuir.com to read all replies there. So whadaya think? Read in Sheepdog News that the ISDS has ruled on the next world trial to be in Wales in 08. I was in Ireland in 05 and it would have been helpful to have cohesion, planning and a bit more involvement from the HA from early on. In that vein, I suggest we start thinking and talking about this now and maybe we can make improvements for the handlers who get to go next time. The HA communicated with the ISDS and coordinated the selection and entries. I appreciate that and mean no criticism at all. By the way, where was the ABCA? I'm grateful beyond words that I got to go. It was the trip of a lifetime, really. It was the first time for all of us and we learned a lot. Just suggesting that we get a jump on things this time around and have a few ideas. Since US and Canada are so closely related trial-wise, how about a North American team instead of 2 separate? I'm going to get creamed for writing that out loud, I know and don't know if the ISDS would accept it, but it's at least worth considering, (for a minute?) Selection could be based on our finals or some combination of both and, I feel at least, like both countries together would be sending a much stronger team. The 05 results speak for themselves so put down the gun! Suggest the HA form a committee to coordinate the team. Overbroad? That's what the attorneys say but they're very strange, except for the ones reading this forum. You know things like selection & entries again, sponsors, airlines, accomodations, European Pet Passport. Even a correct and consistent dissemination of information from one source would make a world of difference. A link on the HA web site to DEFRA was nice, but not of much value. It's at DEFRA where things got confusing. Possible that the world trial is not that important to us as a group, you decide, but we represent our country/continent when we go and I know we can do better. To me 05 seemed a bit hap-hazard and disjointed which, again imho, was reflective of our inexperience and reflected on the trial field. Everyone who went made a monumental effort and spent vast sums of money and the support from home was unbelievable. No one appreciates that more than me. I'm not being critical of anyone or anything, just suggesting that it would be good if we plant the world trial seed in our collective conscious sooner than later.
  4. Good idea and maybe a percentage is better than a set number in case weather or whatever changes the number or dogs run. is anyone besides me curious about the judging nominations for this year's finals? who are they and when does the board vote? also should the board be able to nominate judges when they are the ones who vote them in?
  5. Does anyone have a list of the nominees for the Klamath finals? And when does the board vote on these? thanks
  6. i started this thread under another topic but would like your opinion on this so started a new one. here's my pet peeve; a handler running a crippled dog and no one doing anything about it. and by anyone i mean the judge, course director and trial organizers. i realize that any ha member can file a complaint with the ha but that does nothing to stop the abuse on the day it occurs. there is a man here in CA who runs a bitch well past her prime that has had more than one hip surgery and that struggles to walk let alone run, let alone uphill, let alone trying to cover waspy range ewes. seems to me that a judge should have the ability to ask for some sort of a health cert if it's his opinion a crippled dog is being abused and further should be able to DQ the handler if one is not available. the first time this happens will be a shock to the handler, but the second time he will either be able to produce or there won't be a second time.
  7. dennis gellings' jan was reserve at meeker the year she was reserve nursery champ. tommy wilson's sly was top 5 at meeker and was qualified for open and nursery at the finals. my own dog kit won his first open trial at 25 months of age in March of 05, placed at another couple opens and was qualified for the nursery and open finals. seems to me some dogs start earlier than others. probably even some lines as 2 dogs mentioned here have some common ancestory. i sold a young dog recently that was not showing enough talent by a year old for my taste. i would not push him into open or even nursery, but i wouldn't keep him either. that's personal preference. it also seems to me however that if a nursery dog is capable of being a viable nursery finalist they are likely good enough for open at some point in their nursery year(s). i train my dogs for work and for trialiing and i let them tell me how fast they want to progress and i sell the ones that don't suit my taste.
  8. I agree with hub that it is cheating to fill a trial with "thrown" runs. Personally though I have most often seen this done where there weren't enough nursery dogs to qualify 1 dog or the trial was close to having enough entries to qualify whatever number and they just needed one more. To adhere to the strictest letter of the rule would mean simply that you don't offer the trial if there aren't enough legitimate entries but with the number of entered nursery dogs at this year's finals below the number available is this a problem? Other than a moral one, i mean? If there were more nursery dogs than spots available at the finals then I would consider cheating to qualify more grevious. anyway, i defer to you moi' capitan' and am curious whether there has ever been a time when there were more nursery dogs entered at the finals than spots available. here's my pet peeve; a handler running a crippled dog and no one doing anything about it. and by anyone i mean the judge, course director and trial organizers. i realize that any ha member can file a complaint with the ha. there is a man here in CA who runs a bitch well past her prime that has had more than one hip surgery and that struggles to walk let alone run, let alone uphill, let alone trying to cover waspy range ewes. seems to me that a judge should have the ability to ask for some sort of a health cert if it's his opinion a crippled dog is being abused and further should be able to DQ a crippled dog if one is not available. the first time this happens will be a shock to the handler, but the second time he will either be able to produce or there won't be a second time.
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