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  1. AK Dog Doc's terrific posts were some of the best things that ever happened to this forum, and I'm heartsick to learn of her death. She was so generous with her knowledge, so kind and intelligent and sensible, and she wrote so well. That passage Eileen quoted was spellbinding. My deepest condolences to her loved ones. Tranquilis, you and your family are in my thoughts.
  2. For what it's worth, here's the section on hemangiosarcoma from Laura Sanborn's Long-Term Health Risks and Benefits Associated with Spay / Neuter in Dogs: The footnote links disappeared in my cut-and-paste -- here are the two studies cited. http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/3192450 http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/10225598 And yeah, hereditary: "According to the Golden Retriever Health Study published in 2000, the estimated lifetime risk of hemangiosarcoma in this breed is 1 in 5." Source. [Good article, there.]
  3. I've been kind of radicalized on this topic thanks to various spay/neuter bills here in California. As the AVMA says, population control of companion animals should be less important than the health of an individual animal -- but damned if we don't have PETA and various wingnuts clamoring for a "No-Birth Nation" and pushing for laws that would require every dog puppy in the state to be "fixed" by four months. Anyhow -- here's the best article I've seen on the health effects of spay/neuter. [it's pdf.] IMHO, this is the article that should get lots of airplay. "More than 50 peer-reviewed papers were examined to assess the health impacts," as it says in the intro, and if you can find bias either in the selection of the articles or the analysis, by all means speak up. I say this because the author of the article helped lead the fight against mandatory spay/neuter laws in California, and that fact, to some folks, means that everything she says must be bogus. This is not bogus. Money quote, from the abstract: "Male and female [Rottweilers] that underwent gonadectomy before 1 year of age had an approximate one in four lifetime risk for bone sarcoma and were significantly more likely to develop bone sarcoma than dogs that were sexually intact." "She was only 3 years old when she started limping." One of the saddest posts I've read on these boards. I have an intact male cur-dog [pit/shepherd mix], and I think he's terrific, and he'll be keeping his balls unless the vet says he'd be healthier without them. There are actually entire countries in Europe [hello, nations of Scandinavia!] where intact male dogs are the norm and animal shelters are not overflowing and the world has not come to an end, though of course those nations have socialized health care, too, so what do they know. My point: be informed about the heath effects of neutering. And please keep in mind [because your dog's health may depend upon it] that when to neuter an individual dog, or whether to neuter him, is your call. Some idiot politician who has never owned a dog and only listens to PETA No-Birthers should not be deciding what's best for your dog.
  4. OMG KATIE!! Congrats on Steve's rally win!! It's so great you're here on the Boards. My new guy Smoky is following in Steve's footsteps training-wise except that you two are miles ahead of us. We're following your progress closely... [Katie's blog is super, by the way.] Hi, Paula!! Hi, Jan!! Hi, Sue!! Hi, all!
  5. Interesting report -- Terrierman has more [and more] over at his blog.
  6. Ditto. I have a tiny flock of [mostly] Border Cheviots, and I love 'em.
  7. From Snopes... er, Pet Connection:
  8. A few more links worth reading: Nathan Winograd on the situation in L.A. [poster city & county for MSN] The Illinois Veterinary Medical Association's position The California Department of Finance says AB 1634 is bad news for California taxpayers
  9. More info here, here and here. Huge thanks to State Senator Gloria Negrete McLeod. Many folks [i was one] visited her office and talked the ears off her terrific assistants -- they listened politely, asked good questions, and doG bless 'em all. It's dead. [Check out this letter from the bill's author. And for a hefty dose of crazy, go to the bill's website and wade through the lies and half-truths [shudder]. Eternal vigilance is the price of keeping our dogs safe from these wingnuts.]
  10. But it looks like Kell did all right Cattledog Finals results page, in case the screen grab doesn't show up. Congratulations!! [Two dogs in the final, whoa...!]
  11. Oh, no. Thank you, Sally, for the updates -- Bill and his family are in my thoughts and prayers.
  12. Thank you guys so much! [Heh -- she said "you guys."] I was sure it was a quote about me, but it's from the first post in the thread: This statement really upset me, too. I thought my border collies would go to Stanford and support me in my old age, and now Jon Katz is all, "Dogs aren't people!" Who knew?
  13. That depends... Are we talking about Dixie Girl, or Rev. Jeremiah Wright?
  14. Actually, the report you cited lists several deaths attributed to Labrador retrievers. A border collie was involved in a fatal attack a couple years ago. So what? The CDC hasn't tracked fatal attacks by breed since 1998 -- they think it's a waste of time. The bigger the dog, the greater the likelihood that it will cause harm if it attacks. Again, so what? The majority of dog bite victims are children, and it doesn't take a big dog to maim a child. Some 40 breeds have been involved in fatal attacks, according to the CDC. Briards are rare as hen's teeth, and they've killed four or five people in the last decade. Should it be illegal to own a Briard? Here's a quote from Julie Gilchrist (a doctor at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who researches dog bites): On another site the CDC states: Further discussion of this study can be found here and here. _______________ Just out of curiosity -- are those of you who self-identified as middle-aged-white-women-who-are-not-racist cool with what the poster said? Do you agree with her description of "a huge hispanic population.. that thinks that they are the most "bad ass" if they have the largest pit bull on a huge chain and a collar with the largest spikes"? Do you figure the poster has met every family, every man, woman and child with a Spanish surname in South Texas and they all have pit bulls on huge chains with spiked collars because they all want to be the most 'bad ass'? Have you met all those people with Spanish surnames? Or do you think it's just "most" of the "huge hispanic population"? "Many"? Every other family-with-a-Spanish-surname on the poster's block...? Because when someone says that "the problem is stupid people think they are 'bad asses'" and and the "huge hispanic population... thinks that they are the most 'bad ass' if they have the largest pit bull on a huge chain and a collar with the largest spikes," I don't see how you can read that as anything but a slur: a biased generalization. And if you're not cool with what the poster wrote, then do you think I'm out of line to take issue with that biased generalization? As I said, I'm just curious. RDM --- barring a few jerks in Ontario
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