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  1. kelpiegirl

    My question

    You know, it just isn't worth it. Time for me to just quit existing here, because of the clear irritation I create when I post. If you want to keep up with me, my blog address is below.
  2. kelpiegirl

    My question

    Hi again Lori, it alway seems that if I post, I get a quick retort from certain people...... I should have added, that I moved up to pro-novice. But, I suppose I could move up to open, just to say I did
  3. kelpiegirl

    My question

    I think it depends on where you feel your dog should be? I moved up, because my dog is capable of doing small open level sized courses for driving and cross driving, and sheds. It's about where your dog is, imo, it should not be about points, it should be about where you are, and what you are comfortable with.
  4. Let's see, how do I put this gently............... She ain't goin' no where.
  5. Julie- one thing- in the north east, you see trials with 300 yd outruns (open).
  6. Yes, that's what I did (do). Now that I have my own sheep, much less driving and wear and tear, but then I don't have the expert trainers. So, I still go to the trainer's place to learn more as often as I can (not twice a week, and not even every week). It also depends on the dog. Some dogs mature earlier than others.
  7. Wow, what a story. The attack on you, or any human really makes it clear what needs to be done. One thing I want to mention though, and please, this has NO bearing on what needs to be done now- is that the lazer light is a *really* bad thing to use with dogs- especially herding dogs who are so driven by movement. Do yourself a favor and throw it out.
  8. Bob You've said what I have been taught, and I think some of what I have been taught is by you It's very true. Only very special dogs who can handle the rigors of such high level of work, and standards at a young age should even entertain the notion of going.... Not that the dogs make the decision, but you know what I mean. There are a few dogs out there that even at young ages, seem to be handling open courses very well, and I believe that's what the nursery class is for- those few cream of the crop dogs who have the mental fortitude and God given talen to put in a top flight run.
  9. Try giving her gas x, before she normally would start, if you see a pattern.
  10. Borborygmi is the term for this - gas in the gut. Something is not agreeing with the dogs. My Boxer had this problem, and it was almost always followed with change in stool. I put him on another food, and no more problems.
  11. I apologize in advance, but the scenario you just described would be a circle of he double tooth picks to me. How did all those dogs compete pre-clicker? I know one obedience instructor who doesn't use a clicker, but who is VERY good with timing, and a simple YES! is just what she uses. The dogs learn to love her voice, which is a side benefit, and look from approval from her, and not the clicker. At demos one time, someone gave away clickers to kids. OH MY LORD. There were about 150 clickers going off........
  12. I have to say, I am impressed by your breadth of knowledge on this subject.
  13. Good points Sue, but otherwise, this is getting too weird for even me. Beam me up Scotty.
  14. Um, then it's not very competitive then, is it? I surely hope you are kidding when you say that the person would no longer be able to compete. I can bet you dollars to donuts, that in the end, no matter WHAT the competition, the person who's do performs the best will always be on top- regardless of method of training. I look at the big names in agility and sheepdog trialling and see that they consistently do well year after year with just about every dog they run. My theory, is that they are good trainers.
  15. Sometimes, the word insolence comes to mind, when these conversations go on and on and on......... I am a wet behind the ears newbie, and I *really* like to learn from folks who have lots of years of experience, and I mean LOTS of years of proven track record, just darn good. I listen to them. Sometimes I hear things I don't want to hear, but heck, they know what they are talking about. I have been "in" my profession now for over two decades, and will occasionally get someone who believes that they know how to do it better, and can't understand what I am talking about. Generally, I will entertain the idea with conversation and we may even try it. Then, we see that well, all those years of experience has made me, and others like me, pretty darn good at doing our job well, efficient, and will very good results. That is not to say sometimes an innovation can be made, so I keep my ears open. Discussing parallels between training sheep dogs and things like Rally O, or Dancing, is well, rather like nailing a boston cream pie to the wall.
  16. Rootbeer: What exactly are you training? What sorts of issues do you tackle? I am curious, as I did a fair amount of pet dog training myself.
  17. I don't leash him a lot, but the rule is that he walk behind me, even off leash. As to your question, for me, I am sort of lazy, so sometimes he would pull. I would rather you ask the open handlers this question... I don't want to quash keen-ness, if that's your question, but I also don't like my arms pulled out of their sockets either
  18. Yes, do, Root beer. I still want to know how to get my dog not to pull...........................................
  19. I guess that sums it up then. Maybe it is voodoo.
  20. To me, it sounds like dehydration and hypoglycemia. Fingers crossed that this is just a bump in the road.
  21. 'K, thanks. I didn't understand cuz I am not a good open handler.
  22. To add to blackdawg's assertion, I suggest Root beer, that you go to an open level sheepdog trial, and see the dogs, the MYRIAD dogs walking around in the morning, off leash, not causing problems, happy, (of course there will always be the odd one out) and behaving, and no treats/clickers anywhere in sight. Maybe, back to the original post, THIS is Voodoo......
  23. Root beer: Wrt the dog that you mention below being unnerved by a crowd, to perform a routine, I would have to ask, is it worth it? Why put the dog in a position to suffer fear, just to perform? Or, is it an opportunity to show the world that a behaviour can be over come by ascribed methods? I have done "stupid pet tricks" obedience, agility, frisbee, you name it, with several dogs. If my dogs were completely un-nerved by an audience, I would seriously question why I am doing the performance with that dog. As to my point, there was no point, it was a legitimate question. How would you handle it? To make it more generic, say the sheep aren't even in sight, but the dog knows they are there.
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