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  1. I think the OP knows this is a really bad idea and is looking for justification, attention and support. You chose to get your dog and now you need to do the hard work and make the hard choices to care for him. That means not leaving him with your sister, walking out on your relationship with him and saddling her with the responsibility. I don't care how you sugarcoat it. As my dad used to tell me, "You can have anything you want, just not everything you want." Living with dogs during transitional phases of your life can be difficult. Grow up and take care of your dog. Even if that means having to share living space when you don't want to.



  2. I still need two legs for this transport - Conover NC to Burlington NC and Burlington NC to South Hill VA - for this Saturday morning. If you know someone in the area that might be able to help, please forward the information below. Thank you!




    This is the tentative run sheet. I will back times up to a 7 am start when/if I can get a confirmation from the vet clinic that someone can be there to release her to us that early. That would simply shift each time one hour earlier. I added 10 minutes to each leg for transfers.



    Lady is a small female border collie, 31 pounds, 6-8 months old. She had FHO surgery today to repair an old injury to her hip. She will need to be lifted in and out of vehicles but is fine otherwise and the vet has approved her to travel. You may want to bring a larger crate than normal as that may make getting her in and out a little easier. She is being treated for kennel cough but will have been treated for a week by the time transport occurs. She was spayed today and is UTD on all vaccs.



    Pick up in Burnsville, NC to Conover, NC 8 am - 9:45 am (1 hour 36 minutes, 82 miles) - Thanks Jennie!


    Conover, NC to Burlington, NC 9:45 - 11:55 am (1 hour 55 minutes, 120 miles) - NEEDED


    Burlington, NC to South Hill, VA 11:55 - 1:55 pm (1 hour 48 minutes, 106 miles) - NEEDED


    South Hill, VA to Richmond, VA 1:55 pm - 3:30 pm (1 hour 25 minutes, 82 miles) - Thanks Cori!


    Richmond, VA to Fredericksburg, VA 3:30 pm - 4:30 pm (1 hour, 57 miles) - Thanks Diane!



    MABCR volunteers will take the dog from Fredericksburg to the final destination in Chestertown, MD.


    Please send me a pm if you may be able to help.



  3. Since this thread has reemerged, I'd like to make one quick point. If you are interested in getting a young pup through rescue - it is very possible. Just like getting a pup from a good breeder, you need to be patient. Get approved through your rescue(s) of choice and then wait for the right pup to come through.


    Many rescues choose not advertise available pups online. Puppy postings online tend to attract large numbers of less qualified applicants. For this reason rescues frequently have a waiting list of people and/or choose not to advertize puppies (instead making them available through direct contact or word of mouth). Just because puppies are not listed on rescue websites does not mean they are not available, do your research, networking and then be patient.



  4. I think there is a definite distinction between pain tolerance and sensitivity to correction. While many border collies have a very high pain threshold, they tend to be much more sensitive to correction than other breeds. It's part of what makes them so much fun and easy to train for obedience and dog sports. I find that the average lab or cattledog takes a much more significant verbal or collar correction in a companion dog training setting than the average border collie.

  5. As I was reading this thread, this was my exact thought. If retrievers were bred to retrieve then it seems to me that there would be the basic instinct there that could just be built on (sort of like stock work). If retrieving dogs require force-based methods to get them to do something they should do naturally, then it says something to me about the breeding programs that produced those dogs, and that something isn't complimentary. I've never had to use force-based methods to teach either hold it or drop it, so I'm not getting that either (and people who know me from this forum know that I am not a reward-based-only trainer by any means).


    Julie raises a good point. There was an article on force training a retrieve in one of the most recent issues of American Hunter magazine. One issue they commented on is that some lines of bird dogs (I think they referenced some pointers and setters) have little fetch actually bred into them at this point which I thought was interesting. They weren't clear as to whether breeders were breeding more for conformation or for other parts of the hunting picture (scent work or pointing?).


    I don't have the magazine in front of me but I always find their training articles interesting from a slightly voyeuristic perspective. (Ie., another article advocated training a puppy to crate up by setting his shock collar on a low stimulation setting and ending the stimulation when the handler put the puppy in the crate.)


    They also said that force fetching was used after a lot of play fetching to build drive. The force fetch was then used to teach the dogs that the fetch wasn't optional.


    I'm personally not keen on the idea of force fetching but also think its important to remember that bird dogs have to a large extent been bred to tolerate the sort of training methods that most bird dog trainers use. Just because someone uses it successfully on a setter or lab doesn't mean that a border collie or cattledog would respond as well to that training technique. I think shock collars and force fetching are two examples of common training techniques that are not necessary and frequently counter productive for more sensitive dogs.



  6. Unfortunately in my experience the people that are most frequently drawn to flexileads are people who have little experience in training their dogs. Many people use flexileads instead of training their dog to walk politely onleash. I have seen several people get wrapped up and badly burned by them.


    The case of the woman with the head injury that SueR referenced was a friend walking with someone else. She wasn't an idiot, she just did what came naturally in an emergency. Unfortunately she paid a very high price for that. I think flexileads are fine when nothing is going on but pose a significantly higher risk than traditional leashes when anything out of the ordinary occurs. I don't allow them in my classes and take the long way around when I see someone walking a dog on one.



  7. Interesting study, but this is a typical misleading statement about the findings in an epidemiological study:

    When in reality the study found a correlation between longevity and the presence of ovaries not that the presence of ovaries lead to longevity (cause and effect).


    The quote implies cause and effect which strictly cannot be proven with an epidemiological study since the lives of all the dogs in the study were not controlled identically.




    Original Article: download pdf


    Thanks Mark!

  8. This is an interesting article:


    New research on the biology of aging in dogs suggests a link between shortened life expectancy and ovary removal.


    The study, published in the December 2009 issue of the journal Aging Cell, found that Rottweilers that were spayed after they were 6 years old were 4.6 times as likely to reach 13 years of age as were Rottweilers that were spayed at a younger age.


    The full text is here.

  9. Kristina,

    I can't speak to the blood issue but can to the HW. My Ben came out of a shelter in Memphis, TN. He tested HW- when I got him but HW+ at his annual checkup a year later. He was treated and came through with flying colors. The crate rest was definitely the hardest part. Also, he was very pitiful for a couple of days after the immiticide (?) treatment. I had a lab treated for HW last summer and he did great too even though his HW was much further developed than Ben's. On the bright side, it sounds like Seamus's infection is relatively recent so hopefully his load is small and there will be less stress from the treatment.


    As for the blood, have you contacted an emergency vet in your area or your vet's afterhours number? If it is a small quantity of fresh blood, it may be due to a tear or broken blood vessel and probably is not a huge crisis. If it is larger quantities, dark or thick (indicating it came from further up his GI track), I would have him seen ASAP. I have seen dogs pass quantities of mucus along with fresh blood - quite disturbing - when they have large intestinal worm infestations too.


  10. Check out this link to an in interesting article abstract. I don't have access to the full text but found the abstract highly intriguing. I'd love to have access to the whole article.



    Effects of breed, sex, and neuter status on trainability in dogs

    Authors: Serpell, James A.; Hsu, Yuying


    Source: Anthrozoos: A Multidisciplinary Journal of The Interactions of People & Animals, Volume 18, Number 3, 2005 , pp. 196-207(12)


    Publisher: Berg Publishers





    In a previous study of canine temperament (Hsu and Serpell 2003), a distinct “trainability” factor was identified, characterized by a dog's willingness to attend to its owner and obey simple commands, combined with a high “fetch” motivation, and low levels of distractibility and/or resistance to correction. This paper explores the distribution of this trait in a large sample of dogs in relation to breed, sex and neuter status. The owners of 1,563 dogs belonging to 11 common breeds were invited to assess them for “trainability” using a standardized questionnaire (C-BARQ©). Highly significant breed differences in trainability were detected. In two breeds with distinct field and show bred lines, show bred dogs obtained significantly lower trainability scores. Although no overall sex differences in trainability were detected, male Dachshunds and West Highland White Terriers were found to be significantly more trainable than females. Neutering was not associated with any differences in trainability in female dogs in any breed, but was associated with positive effects on trainability in male Shetland sheepdogs. The findings suggest that there is scope for improving trainability in most breeds of dog, and emphasize the dangers of generalizing among breeds with respect to sex differences in trainability or the benefits of neutering. The biological basis of the trainability trait is also discussed in light of recent research on the evolution of canine social cognition.

  11. Both of my girls will hike a leg to pee on something interesting. Of course Ben will too so there's an entire pack heirarchy order of pee that comes into play when we pass something really interesting on a walk - Pip, Nell and Ben sniff and pee in order. If Ben gets overzealous, he pees on the girls' heads and then repees after they have peed. Fun :rolleyes:

  12. Well, Donald, I use treats for some things at some times when it's convenient for me - and I'm a firm believer in using what works for you, the dog, and the situation as long as it's humane - and I know that, with you, it will be. A method won't work for you if you're not comfy with it, and the zen of Jack (make the right easy; and the wrong hard) is always a valid approach to many issues.



    I gave myself a treat last night (chocolate caramels) for doing something unpleasant (calling all 40 people on my dog class list). It worked like a charm.


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