Report Suitable environment for BC? in General Border Collie Discussion Posted September 22, 2017 I don't really visit these boards much anymore (perhaps some old timers will remember me) but this thread is driving me crazy. I raised and lived with border collies in apartments and condos, including highrises, in dense urban areas, for most of my adult life. Fostered countless rescue border collies. Raised several rescue litters in said apartments. All of them were fine, well adjusted dogs. I live on a farm *now* but my border collies I've raised on the farm are no better and no less well adjusted dogs than the ones that were raised downtown in apartments. I've still got one of them left; she's nearly 15 and still truckin'. They grew up walking city streets and playing in dogs parks, and they were all FINE. They had lots of border collie and type dog friends who lived in the same environment they did. They were all fine too. And I did it all while working full time. I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again now; in 19 years of rescuing border collies, I've never received a single dog from someone in apartment who said "this dog just can't handle the city living." They all came from suburban or rural homes. And there have been over 1,000 of them. Once, many years ago, whilst running a border collie rescue, I got turned down for adoption by another border collie rescue that simply could not conceive of a border collie living in an urban apartment. Go ahead and get a border collie if you want one. Just don't expect it to use the toilet. Doesn't matter how smart they are, that's just unrealistic.