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  1. Cindy, I wasn't attacking your choice of using a prong I was just curious how you planned to use it to correct the behavior. Pronging a dog around with verbal corrections at this stage (IMO) isn't fair. If she can't control herself the prong won't help her w/o risking damage to the relationship. To avoid her associating the prong w/ you you could let her self correct but how many times will she self correct before she "gets it" if a head halter has left marks and done nothing to curb her behavior? If she stops flopping like a fish but barks, screams, etc how does the prong self correct? Does
  2. If you plan to use a prong what do you plan to do with it? I'm not saying it isn't the answer, but I'm curious what you can do with a prong in this situation to gain control and not damage your relationship with the dog. Before anyone accuses me of being "all positive" I'm not. I would appreciate it if you would share your plan to control this behavior by using a prong.
  3. Does the dog have a reliable down? First, down means down. It doesn't mean bark, whine, wiggle, or anything but thinking about the down. If you have this type of down you can try this exercise: Get a few private lessons where the instructor has another dog to run the course. Bring your dog out of the car, potty break or whatever you do and approach the field. A few feet from the field make the dog down. Stay next to her and make her stay down for 2-3 minutres. While she's down there are NO other dogs on the field. After the successful down do a brief run and take her back to the car or some
  4. Laura, You must first separate scent and sight tracking. If your dog is seeing mvmt. in the woods that stimulates her prey drive that does not mean teaching her to use her nose will make that problem worse. If she is rewarded in chasing by catching the prey - that will make her chasing worse. It's self rewarding. When you talk about scent tracking you have to again separate a high nose from a deep nose. A high nose uses the wind to help find the target - commonly seen in law enforcement, SAR, etc dogs. Deep noses are seen more in Schutzhund dogs. Deep noses are tracking step by step.
  5. RedDawnZoe, E-mail me at: lv4running@yahoo.com I have a deaf BC, live with several BC's, know the kennel you got Zoe from, and have several options to help you place her with people looking for a deaf dog. I am also on the deafdog web site on yahoo. CJ
  6. Denise, It seems we keep losing something in our reading of one another's posts. My initial post that you reposted says I don't think BYB will make it impossible to find a good working dog but that I agreed they dilute a breed down. You then posted that you disagreed with that. It seems that as we continue this we actually think along the same lines but can't seem to be clear enough in our posts to meet in the middle. As for the genetics topic I didn't want to verify anything you wrote I honestly find such topics very interesting. If my request made you feel defensive or that I was doubt
  7. The quote from Bill is my exact point. Denise initially said this was how we lose a working breed completely and I disagreed. I did agree that it's how the breed as a whole gets diluted, but we don't completely lose them this way. Yes, overbred breeds get diluted to the point that not everyone sees them as a working breed but that doesn't mean there aren't working lines or working dogs anymore. I mentioned the working lines because the subject of "working potential" was brought up. We can't determine potential if it's not tapped so determining potential is a pure guess. Tapping it is up to th
  8. Well, I am neither inexperienced or a non-working breed person and I still see probelms with the theory if you are using it to explain how we will eventually lose the herding ability of working dogs completely. Again, I would agree that the theory explains the ruination of a working breed OVERALL, but it still does not explain how a breed loses it's working ability because of the pet breeders. I would be interested in reading the list you refer to since I would completely agree it explains a breed as a whole but not a specific part of the breed. Would you please share the group link where you
  9. Bob, I know some sport dog people in your area. MOst were out of town for some events but I'll let you know what's available once they get back. Not all are BC people but they are still very nice and welcome new people with open arms.
  10. Bob, Are you looking for others to do any doggie type things with or a specific dog sport? Cindi I LOVE that look on your pups face!
  11. Start with the wobble board. If she's a shy girl I wouldn't even work on the regular teeter or dog walk yet. Once she's comfortable with the wobble board, moving around on it, doing 2on 2off on it, then I'd move to a very low A-frame. When she's 100% comfortable on the wooble and A-frame you can replace the board with a thinner one to look more like a teeter, but keep it low still. Have someone ready to slow the fall of the board as she tips it and have them catch it when she finishes her 2X2 and steps off. This is how my instructor taught these objects to the timid dogs. She's very successf
  12. Buy a clicker book with how to teach the clicker and tricks/things to teach with the clicker. If you make a mistake with the clicker training it's not dramatic as if you try to teach using compulsion methods. I recommend one called "Clicking with Your Dog" by Peggy Tillman. It's easy to read, has lots of illustrations and lots of things to teach.
  13. Try doing a search under my member number 2684, in all forums, open date, no key word. It may take a bit to sort through them, but I know it's been in the last two or so months so that will help narrow it down. The post, while I DO NOT like to compare dog to humans, uses typical human distractions to help you understand how difficult it can be to react to requests unless you've been programed for that distraction. Dogs are the same way. Make sure you scroll the finds since I my have posted more than once on that particular topic. I gotta take the dogs out to swim, but if yo ucan't find the
  14. Tootsie's Mom, I just want to assure you that Tootsie's lack of listening around distractions is NOT willful disobedience. Don't get frustrated and quit working her. There ia a thread from about a month or so ago where I explained why it's so different asking a dog to do something in a familiar place Vs a new place. If you can't find it doing a search, I'll post the basics of it again, but it's a bit long to retype.
  15. At 16 weeks she's a puppy and if left alone, they find things to entertain themsevles like chewing, digging, barking, etc. Allie has made a great suggestion with crating the pup. Make sure you give her things to do in the crate like stuffed Kongs, raw bones, and such. If you can't crate I'd suggest an older dog to keep her entertained. Not a young dog that might take up digging with your dog, but a mature dog that can hang out in the yard with her. Also, make sure you're working her mind and body each day so she isn't as bored when she's left alone during the day. Hope some of this helps.
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