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  1. ---"What will happen when the AKC closes its stud books ... Hmmm... Jodi"--- If the ABCA wants to contest the AKC Border Collie name for the breed, as the Jack Russel people did as was mentioned in one post above, maybe it should do so before the books close? One other point on working border collies not being sound, as some misguided soul mentioned: I just had my working border collie dog spayed and hips x-rayed at the same time and the vet keep saying how they were some of the nicest and most functional he had seen in long time. My dog comes from old working lines and several generations of high point cattle herding dogs, bred for their working ability. It is not very logical to say, as that poster did, that working dogs have poor conformation for their task and work being handicapped by it. Not very probable, the work is too hard. Only the ones properly built for it and that doesn't mean that they all have to look the same, as there are different looks that are functional, have the ability to work for hours on end and days and years.
  2. Clorox is used and works very well on fungi, like rigworm. Are you sure the one that told you didn't speak about using it in that context? Never heard about using it on mites. Lost one doberman to generalized juvenile demodicosis many years ago, before Mitaban dips. The parents were imported dogs from Europe that came with an engineer that had been hired by a US firm. The mother was in whelp during transit so stress probably was a big factor. Seven puppies in the litter, five had it, two died from it, after several months of skin infections that didn't go away. Today such is very rare, as there are many new protocols to control demodex mites, I think some involving ivomectins, that work well, without the stress of the dips, until the immune system has a chance to get it under control, if possible. AK Dog Doc already mentioned that it is something that can be kept an eye on, as it tends to go away on it's own in the localized form and if it spreads, it is always time then to treat. No hurry about it on a grown dog, all lost is a little hair. Worrysome on a puppy, until demonstrated it is not going to be a problem. (Sorry, was not going to butt in here anymore, but...had snow and have nothing better to do right now, was reading and this begged another answer).
  3. ---"P.S. -- Oh, and when I asked Cholla what she was doing here, I didn't mean she should leave. I just don't understand why she is surprised that being all rah-rah about the AKC isn't received well considering this is a board sponsored by, and mostly populated by, people who are opposed to the AKC. That's all. Personally, I wouldn't go hang out on a vegetarian board and post about how great I think meat is."--- Oh, and when I commented on being you who pointed that out, I didn't mean that I was surprised about the comment, only that it was you who made it. Somehow I thought that you were the same person of a year or two ago, that seemed to understand where I was coming from, debating issues on their merit, not because they were AKC or not and yes, some were AKC and I think that I know about them enough to have made some comments to clarify the issues. Live and learn. BTW, it did read to me like you meant that I should leave, even if you deny meaning it. I guess that leaving the floor to the vegetarians is not such a bad idea after all.
  4. Zip is five months old today and doesn't tear toys, at least not yet. She chooses one toy herself at Pets Mart when we go there. She is particular on what she wants, is interesed in some but when the right one comes along, she really jumps for joy at it and carries it all the way to the counter, easy to do since she has been small enough to ride in the cart until this last time. The toy chosen this last time was one of those softer bigger balls with uneven surfaces and a squeaker. It has been a winner for all, soft for her to grab and for anything it hits. She is good about walking on leash except when another dog or person are in sight, then she whines and carries on trying to get to them. Riding in the cart helped. We are working on that "going goofy" about people now, but as far as problems, it is not as bad as being scared. A happy medium would be nice.
  5. ---"...this legislation won't deter breeding abuse at the hands of those who seek to profit from the misery of our beloved friends and companions."--- I know one way that the oversupply and puppy mill breeders would be hampered. Get all the possible money those humane associations get, millions a year in donations and start a catchy, nationally in scope well thought out compaign to SHAME those that breed many dogs, those that breed indiscriminately, those that buy from them and showcase the terrible killing that goes on in shelters. Not wanting to shock you, but to go to help in a shelter and to have to start matching "lost dog" cards to the dogs in there past 10AM, or you have to walk over dead dogs and cats all over if any earlier, is hard on the toughest soul. Dogs you petted the day before... Not even talking about what those shelter employees feel, that have to "do the deed" on so many every day, day after day... I can't believe that our society is letting such happen and think that if it was more common knowledge, how such is reflecting so poorly on our species, it would go a long way to be corrected. I honestly don't think that most people are aware of that and they contribute by, without thought, buying dogs when they don't really want one, just the idea of owning one seemed good at that time. Those people will then have second thoughts about if and where to buy, be properly informed consumers and so we won't have that revolving door of so many dogs that later are abandoned when clueless people realize that they really didn't want to live with a dog. People that breed will have to be very sure that they have excellent reasons to do so and the general public, consumers, will not keep considering dogs an accessory to their lives, as so many do today. How many times do I hear "we moved to a house with a yard, so now we could have a dog but don't have time (barks/digs/etc.) for it, so here it is, you find it a good home". Not that all don't love their dogs, they do, but not enough to get them to fit in their lives. More forethought would be a big help in curbing the demand and especially the demand that buys the puppy mill and backyard breeders dogs and so dry up their "business". Yes, the AKC should be a big part of that, as they are a big part of dogdom.
  6. ---"It's focus, inevitably, is on supporting and maintaining its bloated bureaucracy."--- Just a comment, not trying to get off thread, but that sentence could reflect our government, along with so many other organizations, small and large, I think. Part of the beast.
  7. Yes, you clarify much with your post. AS far as the AKC only being interesed in their members, AKC registered dogs, what is wrong with that? The ABCA is not interesed in any AKC or other dogs, only ABCA. That is the mandate of any association, not only dog ones, to take care of their own. The AKC has been battling puppy mills for long and, as I already mentioned, puppy mills now have their own registries. To use that allegation of AKC interest in puppy mills as money makers is not valid any more. As far as the bill and the amendments, I don't know enough and was waiting for Eileen, that said she knew about it, to chime in, as she promised, when she got back. When I posted about it I clearly indicated that it was all I could find in short notice and didn't know how much of the total picture it was.
  8. Thanks for your clarifying post. I am hard to understand and know it. Something about the way I say things, partly because English is not a language I learned in shool but later in life when I came here and had to, partly because I live fairly isolated so don't have much practice with discourse and forget people can't read my mind and leave much out. I am allergic to dogs so have had very few at once, the last years only one at the time. I have never bred or intend to but helped breeders raise litters and know that someone has to be the good breeders that keep the different breeds alive and useful for the indended purpose, like border collies for herding, so I am not agains breeding in itself. I am also talking about the oversupply that is getting so many dogs out there that don't possibly can find homes. As you say, all of us are partly to blame, not just the AKC, even if they are a big contributor. To clarify further, I was speaking about the AKC numbers not being a true measure, in the posts where that was mentioned, in a strictly statistical manner. With, according to the 2002 humane association figures, 3 million dogs are euthanized in shelters every year, the one million the AKC registers is not that many. Somewhere else there are another two million dogs coming from, plus many AKC dogs I assume are really getting into homes, not that many, even if one is too many, end up in shelters. There is so much to condemn the AKC for, but when we are not using good sense blaming it is when I didn't agree and posted about it. Some seem to have taken offense to the comments I made about trialers, just as I seemed to when I defended some of the anti-AKC comments I didn't agree where correct. Why am I reading and posting here? Because this used to be a very active herding site when I lost my dog and now, with a new puppy, I thought that I could refresh and learn again so much. As far as any "barbs against the herding community", I am speaking of what is going on here, not throwing barbs. Ignoring the truth won't help dogs.
  9. ---"I agree with Julie, Cholla. It also makes me wonder why you're here. I'm not trying to say that the working dog world does not need to clean house -- I think it does. But I'm totally puzzled by your heartfelt defense of the AKC. If you're really that interested in talking about how wonderful the AKC is, I'm afraid you're in the wrong place."--- "My heartfelt defense of the AKC" according to you, I guess and several here, it seems. Not in my mind. I was trying to show that there is more to the AKC than conformation, a true statement, even if you don't welcome it. I have been posting because I thought that I could contribute something and learn, since I do use my dogs on stock and have for over 30 years. You are right, there are not hardly any one here that does make a living off stock. Wrong place for that, it seems. It used to be, long ago... The attitude is that the AKC is indefensible, let's have a party calling all it does wrong, with many misconceptions about what they are thrown in, but don't touch the herding people even if they are doing some of the same things that anyone would consider objectionable. I like fairness in any debate but my Adams quote explains why that is hard to find on this matter here. I was expecting someone or several to question why I was here, but didn't expect such from Melanie. That she deigned to be judge and jury about my presence here surprised me. I know that I don't write well and am hard to understand sometimes but I thought that it was clear that I agree on principle that the AKC does much wrong, especially on the matter at hand, the showing of border collies in conformation. I guess that, according to Melanie at least, unless someone is not a dyed in the wool AKC hater, they are not welcome here. I wonder then why have an obedience and agility part on these boards? How do those feel that do show in some AKC shows, as some indicate they do? Need posters hide that, to be able to be part of the discourse here? When you can't conduct the discussion the way you want, attacking the messeger is always a good way to try to go about it, to end the discussion.
  10. Try, not walking backwards but standing still until the dog will look at you and then praise and go on. After a few tries the dog will be looking at you before the leash tightens. Has worked with several border collies where that was a problem, if you are very, very consistent for a few days, as a new rule for walks.
  11. ---"With 915,668 registrations in 2003 at $15 per registration ($13,735,020) it dwarfs all other registries; that's almost 1 million new dogs a year. Mark"--- Any figures for other registries, like UKC or the one in Canada? How about non AKC (which many are now) puppy mill numbers? Figures on backyard breeders? Any others? We know that we are euthanizing, as far as we can count, over 3 million dogs a year in shelters. Hard to compare with only one number to go by. As John Adams said, more than two centuries ago: "Facts are stubborn things, and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
  12. You may want to take the time to read several of these articles, about the middle, on Loose Leash Walking. Some of it may work for you: http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/index.htm#behaviors A good start is to stand and wait for the dog to look at you while she is pulling and then let's go!. Do it even if it takes you only ten feet forward the first day and in a few days your dog will be getting to the end of the leash and looking back at you before pulling, if you are consistent thru the learning phase and never walk if the leash is very tight.
  13. You mentioned obedience class. What does your teacher recommend you do? Anyone mentioning a pinch collar? They are milder than choke collars but need to be used after they have been adjusted properly and you taught to keep the leash loose. They are called power steering for a reason. At this point, I would ask your teacher about it and give it a try. Keep training without distractions if you can, not when you are so close to something she wants so bad you lose her attention right away. Ask for only a few steps heeling at first, not too far so she has room to start pulling again. Any clicker or attention classes where you take her?
  14. The AKC is not without controversy and herding people are not either. They happen to be part of the problem, around here at least, by the breeding and selling that goes on in a market saturated with dogs that end at the shelter, plus other issues that come from handling stock dogs more like livestock. Do you know how so many people on ranches and trialers generally handle dogs? Some are my friends and I know it is their right to conduct their business as they see proper, even if I don't agree with some of it, just as I do with the AKC. The world is not black and white but shaded. If and when I point at herding people in a positive or negative matter, it is because it is part of what we are discussing. Do you really think that just by being against the AKC, owning border collies and using them on stock, people are without fault? By the way, do you realize that you are not contibuting to this but only picking on me?
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    Several people in our dog club have gone to feeding a different brand every bag or two and say they are happy with the way their dogs look and work. They assume that if one food is not quite balanced for their dog, the next one will take up the slack. Doing that some also found that their dogs don't do as well with some ingredients, like one mentioned chicken. So she now feeds any but feeds with chicken.
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