Report Biting problems. Help! in General Border Collie Discussion Posted March 21, 2019 Quote Now the location and any memories associated with it make it an even more fearful place. But that would mean he would be afraid of that one particular location and he's not afraid to return to the couch or kitchen or other locations. Even if we go broad, he would be fearful of the old house in general. But with the latest bite, he was in a completely new location so there couldn't be any fear of discipline, yet he still bit. In every situation too, there's no loud noises, no sudden movement, no one bothering him. No one has ever pulled his tail or ears or hit him (as much as we know since he was stray) so he has no reason to retaliate. People are standing around talking and he has plenty of room to maneuver--he has to go out of his way to bite. I know zapper collars are controversial because they are so easy to misuse. That's why we don't discipline when we're angry, we never use excessive punishment, and we always use the lowest setting. It's also why we work with a trainer. We found him through a friend and when we saw the effectiveness of zap collars as he trained with them and how they are a tool in the arsenal of training, we agreed to try it. We've also used flat leash training, choker collars, and clicker training along with a zapper collar as a whole approach. If what you're proposing is true (that we misused the zapper collar and created fear), then he would be scared to be around anyone who's ever corrected him (which would be mainly me) or any place he's ever been corrected and that's not true. He slept in my bed until I moved out (and continues to sleep with me at my parents house when I visit) and I jokingly call him "my shadow" because when I'm around he follows me like a shadow. I don't mind bluntness, I do appreciate it, but when what's happening doesn't match up with what you're saying should be happening then we're having a failure of communication or a failure of understanding. I have received wonderful ideas of what to do (switching meds, talking with my parents about training and increasing mental exercise) and how to go about that. I'll definitely update on what happens.