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  1. I agree with all of the above. Especially that a little pup will come around and bond just fine in a short time so don't despair. You might also try just sitting on the floor and having her approach you and letting her make up the game. Like shellyf said, be a bit aloof. Sometimes she might bring a toy for tugging or throwing. Sometimes it might be chase me. (I've found fast crawling on a rug to be a strangely good workout). Sometimes it might even be a cuddle.
  2. Oh. And raw beef or bison bones straight from the freezer. Very effective.
  3. I like to get stuffed animals from the thrift store. 99ยข so the relatively short half life is fine. (Just avoid the ones with the little beads inside... ) Wish I had a sewing machine though! Great idea to make toys from scraps! (maybe a new business awaits for you....?) Gani also helps to pre-recycle things like empty toilet paper rolls and junk mail. The shredded bits still go in the recycling bin when she's done. Boxes large and small are fun too. Shoe boxes, Amazon boxes, pasta boxes. Add a few treats or stuff a toy in and "let her rip". She likes to make kindling for the
  4. OMG. Thanks for thoughtful feedback!!! I also never knew crates were a thing until recently. Yes, it was puppy - proofed kitchens, bathrooms and laundry rooms back in the last millennium. Drawbacks? Certainly. Similarities to crates? Of course. But also more room to move and generally just a short term solution to puppy teeth. I've seen the same "good as gold" look from Gani! Also regarding the couch. She was banished from furniture for 5 weeks because of her broken leg. When I let her back last week, she made herself as tiny and invisible as possible. Her eyes said I promise
  5. Geez! I never said no confinement or no rules. I only postulated that more freedom is another training tool. Maybe this forum doesn't work as well as it could because it's too easy to oversimplify and categorize complex ideas. [Aside: kinda like politics nowadays] I live in a very small town (~200 people, 35 dogs) surrounded by open space. The mores here are similar to those described in Merle"s Door. Some people let their dogs roam. I do not. For me, it's dangerous for the dog and also rude to my neighbors to leave piles of poop around. Others disagree. Underscores how there
  6. I don't agree with the shock collar at all and would never, ever use one. Also, having read the book recently, I would suspect that the author would not do the same thing again now. I would guess that he was learning in the times (I think the early/mid 90s) and place (rural Wyoming) he was in. Not to excuse the use of a shock collar, however -- there would have been much better ways to deal with the situation of his dog getting fat because his neighbors fed it when it wandered around. Maybe starting with not letting it wander around. But thanks for acknowledging that I posted the book
  7. Gani is my 3rd border collie puppy. I treated the others in much the same way as I'm treating her. They turned out to be very good dogs who did not destroy things as they were growing up and who could be entrusted with dog doors etc for their entire long lives (15 and 17 years).
  8. Thanks Flora & Molly. Sounds like your approaches are similar to mine. I like the idea of the "go away" command. I have a couple versions that seem similar. One is "move" which is an immediate command that evolved in mountain biking with my first border collie, Essie, where it meant "get off the trail this instant so I don't run you over". However it evolved to be a generally useful way to say "go someplace else, anyplace, but do it right now." Useful when walking through with laundry baskets or to claim space on the couch! I also use "go lie down" to tell the dog to stop bothe
  9. I actually learned of that book on these boards. It most certainly doesn't apply to the specific situations of most people (myself included). But I point it out for the overall philosophy of allowing dogs more freedom, within the reality constraints of one's life.
  10. https://www.amazon.com/Merles-Door-Lessons-Freethinking-Dog/dp/0156034506
  11. The logic is this: instead of preventing a dog (of any age) from making mistakes by prophylactically limiting their freedom, an alternative approach is to start by determining the degree of freedom and responsibility that they can handle by allowing them to make a few mistakes and then scaling back if necessary. In other words, I am exactly saying that I want to start by trusting my puppy in order to determine the degree of training and restriction required instead of starting by restricting the puppy without knowing the degree to which it is necessary. Here's an example. Like most peo
  12. Right. So we all agree that crates can be useful and are sometimes necessary. How about if somebody comments on topic: I posit that sometimes behavioral issues can also be addressed by allowing puppies more freedom, not less. Maybe sometimes we people would benefit from trusting our dogs more, not less. I'm not overly sensitive. Just trying to have a different conversation. One that doesn't always end with "pop 'em in the crate" as the only answer. What are puppy steps that folks can use to expand their dog's freedoms and responsibilities? What are alternatives to time outs i
  13. I actually agree that it's an important skill. In fact, Gani goes in the crate on own because I've given her treats and bones and kongs there. I've taught her "go in your crate" and she does. Big deal. The point of my post was to consider whether sometimes allowing MORE freedom is an effective training tool, an idea that I do not see discussed here. I don't appreciate being criticized and lectured for raising a new topic of conversation. Maybe I should keep my ideas in the box/crate.
  14. I am wondering if anybody else here does NOT use a crate. My puppy Ganeshani (Gani for short) is about 4 1/2 months now. AND... She broke her leg 5 weeks ago and so has been on activity restriction which will continue to some degree for another 3 weeks. (She's healing very well and is expected to recover 100%) So she hasn't been able to run or jump or go for more than 10 min walks or play with other dogs for 5 weeks. I've had to be creative in entertaining her with training and toys and trips to the hardware store (in the shopping cart) during her recovery. Its been challenging at
  15. I'm enthralled with my new family member Gani, 12 weeks old tomorrow. She's a complete joy and oh-so-easy, just fitting right into the household, no problems at all. So far, our walks are about a mile which takes about an hour since they are leisurely, non-linear outings, mostly off-leash, with lots of sniffing and playing as well as some built-in work on recall. This seems just fine -- she runs right in to play with toys when we get home and she's always eager to go out the next time -- so I'm not at all concerned about the current walks. My question is, as I gradually start to increa
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