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Flora & Molly

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  1. I didn't know that saying I love it though Can't wait for an opportunity to use it in class ( I'm an English teacher at a high school) I'm sure my students will like it too
  2. Yes exactly, I think he learned that people will leave him alone when he bites. The shelter explained it like that on the website so people have all the information. He is great with other dogs and friendly to strangers, so I think he has a good chance to find a nice home. If only hey had said something, I would have taken him in until he found a good home, trained him a little. Would have saved them the shelter fee too. But perhaps too difficult to be confronted with your failure when you see me walking him in the neighbourhood. @GentleLake We don’t have breed specific rescues here in the Netherlands, or at least not for BC’s. Probably because we are such a small country. I’d love to start one, who knows, when I can buy a house with a little bit of land... I might
  3. Years ago we had a rescue dog that was very fearful towards strangers. What helped her to be more at ease with strangers was no interaction with them. Just to be in the same room without them trying to pet her or talk to her or even look at her. This way she wasn't pressured into doing anything she didn't want to and could do everything at her own pace. I can't help you with why he's doing this - but he is sending a clear message: he doesn't want anything to do with strangers, so perhaps listen to that. I'd take the pressure off and give him some space with people and at the same time very slowly teach him to trust that he doesn't have to worry so much when there is strangers around. Treats can be part of that, but I wouldn't let other people feed my dog, at least not at this stage where he clearly doesn't want to be near them. I'd maybe start letting strangers give him a treat when he is confident enough/interested enough to sniff them. Even then probably not.
  4. My mother has a jack russell terrier (the little one in my profile pic). We had the same fears and sure she is a lot feistier than the BC's, but turned out very well behaved. Our combined pack is similar to yours one old and wise dog and then the dynamic duo - my Molly and Maxima the terrier (we named her after our queen ) (I can't seem to find a front facing picture of all of them together...)
  5. I'm afraid I have a not so great update on this story. I have a bit of a weird hobby of looking at dogs in animal shelters and on rescue websites even though I can't have a second dog at the moment. And yesterday I came across a border collie on the animal shelter webite who looked somewhat familiar - turns out it is Bobby, now 9 months old. I was shocked and I just can't stop thinking about it. I didn't see this coming. I didn't see them a lot, but we sometimes walked together and I answered all the training questions they had. A couple of weeks ago I recommended a really good trainer that has helped me out with Molly. I have a feeling they didn't contact her as I never heard anything after that. I remember I thought he had so much potential when we last walked together. Such a smart dog. Off leash he went a little bit to far away from us and we changed directions and hid so he would pay more attention and he picked it up really quickly. Eager learner. But I guess the biting had escalated - which started with just the harness as I posted here originally. I wish I could do something, I would take him in a heartbeat if I could. Unfortunately my mum, who is my dogsitter, doesn't want to take care of two dogs as she has two of her own already. I feel awful having seen this slowly get out of hand. Usually bc's are adopted quite quickly here (or so my unofficial hobby/research suggests)- I just hope he will too, but what are the chances for a dog that bites? Sorry, I just had to vent a little. It must have been a very tough decision for them. Poor dog.
  6. I haven't been on the boards in a while and I thought I'd give an update on Molly especially because it is going really really reaaaaally well! No more flirting in the elevator - no more scooting forward when people smile at her. Honestly what changed the most was me. Before I wasn't confident enough to really stop people petting her when they didn't ask... . So Molly wore a bright yellow vest for a while that said "do not pet - dog in training". Really boosted my confidence and now I can do without it and bodyblock people if necessary Sure, I still have to keep an eye on her because she will always love people (and pretend once they are allowed to pet her that she NEVER gets petted at home and they are a very special human indeed). But she isn't as distracted anymore and will listen to me when there is people around. So thank you for your help! It has really paid off! I attached a picture so you can see Molly's irresistable face (and this is a mild version - I don't have a picture of full flirt mode)
  7. With most dogs I wouldn't care at all, and just throw stuff if I feel like it. But for Molly just throwing stuff makes her obsessive and lose her brains. Hence the retriever training, keeps it fun for both of us - and she gets to work which she loves. thanks for the advice. I will have to learn to throw better without the rope
  8. I didn't search for force fetch. I was looking for ways to teach the dog to hold a bumper in the middle when she picks it up.
  9. Must be terrible to be stuck with a thing with such a cute face
  10. I had a bit of a break in Molly's retriever training and picked it up again today. We had a lot of fun so I figured I would try a serious training schedule to see how perfect we can become (and I happen to have a lot of time on my hands). I read up a little in my wonderful retriever book and have a plan in place. So far so good. Molly sometimes holds the bumper by the rope or "cigars" it. When she does this she tends to drop it. No big deal, but would be an interesting challenge to train a correct pick up and delivery. My wonderful book didn't adress this problem so I looked to trusty Google to find a solution. And I came back horrified, I have to write it down to get it off my chest really. Pinching ears and slapping the dog are the results I found. Such a very different tone to my very positive retriever training book. I think what horrified me most was the casual tone in which people talked about pinching ears and "not having time for nonsense like that". I mean, I can get a bit cringy when people are afraid to say "no" to their dog and cookies are the only solution - but this went a bit too far in the other direction. Just needed to share, this isn't something you encounter where I come from as far as I know. Needless to say I won't be pinching Molly's ear when she holds the bumper by the rope pretty sure she'd go off her food
  11. I don't meet many people who want to hear it with the exception of some dog owners I meet on walks. my friends usually make the mistake of asking about Molly and get a lot more information then they thought they would get My family has a running gag where they quote a book to tell me I am rambling too much. They simply say "interest scale". The quote is from a book where a sister says it to her baby sister of about four years old: "interest scale, always think about the interest scale. How high do you reckon this would be on the interest scale?"
  12. that's okay. Apparently the puppy class they went to wanted them to use it. I don't know if he is any trouble when putting the harness on (I'm never there to see it), I feel it has to do with clipping on the leash and all the fun stopping. I'm trying hard to explain making things fun for the dog, especially in recall training. But I only ever see Indy and have only talked to her mum twice and very briefly at that. (I have learned to tone my enthusiasm about dogs down a bit around not-obsessed-dog-owners... don't want to scare people off) We'll see baby steps (and I guess if he does put up a fight about the harness at home they'll switch to a flat collar eventually )
  13. It is not my dog so I don't know why they are using a harness. I only go on walks with them and try to help Indy a bit in understanding her puppy and training him. The rest is up to Indy's parents
  14. We have always used the rule to go outside with the puppy after every activity. So after eating, drinking, playing, sleeping. Re recall - it is better to praise for a job well done than to bribe a pup to come. I have learned this the hard way. Pup wouldn't come unless I stuck my hand in my pocket to get a treat and sometimes she think what she was doing was more important and would choose when to come. I found it very frustrating. It works a lot faster if the pup gets rewarded once she has come to you. Dragging a line as described above would work. Patience is key. Some things she will pick up really quickly and other things may take some time. She'll get there!
  15. Pixie is adorable! Keep posting pictures it is so much fun to see a pup grow. I have a smoothie as well and she rarely gets recognized as a BC. Lately a lot of people think she is a foreign rescue dog, from Spain or Romania. But when people do see that she is a border collie we have such nice conversations. Birds of a feather...
  16. Thank you all for the great ideas! I will be using all of them. So far we haven't been able to do much as it is constantely raining, but with talking and explaining and using Molly as an example we are on the right track. We've had some nice successes with Bobby (the pup) dragging the leash. Of course a young pup will get distracted, but I was able to show here those moments are great opportunities to teach him to pay attention to us. So we would call him over and play with him when he was distracted by some nice smells. He did really really well, better than I expected. One smart pup. I have used your analogies and that has really helped. Plus joking that I'll take Bobby if she doesn't want him... About the biting: he has bitten me when I touched his harness to untangle the leash. It's a "don't touch me!" bite/gnawing. He only does this when it takes a little while. I waited for him to calm down before releasing him, but I think that won't be a good idea for a child. Probably practising touching his harness and giving him a treat would solve this pretty quickly. It is really fun to help her, I am learning how to explain things which helps me understand dogs better. Plus I know my Molly through and through so it is interesting to see another dog and how that dog reacts to things. Bobby has a very different character to Molly.
  17. A while ago now I met a really nice girl, Indy, of about ten years old when she asked me if she could teach Molly some tricks. Sure she could. Molly never really learned any new tricks from her, but they became firm friends. Now Indy has her own BC puppy, Bobby who is 5 months old. We go on walks together. On our walk today she told me she thought Bobby wasn't a smart dog and probably would never be a dog who could go off leash. I had to disagree. He is very smart, he's just a baby. Plus, he does listen to her mum and can walk nicely beside her. Of course she sees Molly who is 4 years old and is really focused on me and wants Bobby to listen as well as she does, but that took a lot of training and maturing. So I said I would help her out a little with Bobby. As I am saving up to study to become a dog trainer, I thought this would be a nice experience for both of us. (this sounds as if she is paying me - she is not ) I am scouring the internet for fun training games and I thought I would ask here as well for fun ideas. I want to help them bond and help her teach Bobby some basic manners. But most of all, show her how much fun her pup is (and how smart). Some of the issues she has are: - he pulls here everywhere - recall, she is afraid to let him drag a line - biting when you touch his harness - digging: when he finds somewhere nice to dig she has a hard time getting him to walk away with her I am pretty sure these things don't happen or are more easily resolved when her mother is present. When I held the leash he was much more responsive, so I think she just needs some tips/techniques to become his leader/partner instead of only his playmate. One of the things I want to do is play a recall game where we sit down opposite each other and call the puppy to us, treats and praise and then the other person calls him over. Rinse and repeat. Fun for the pup, fun for the child and really easy to do together. I am looking for things we can do with Bobby, but perhaps also something we can do with Molly to show her how dogs learn - and that rewards are really important. I hope you can help me come up with loads of fun stuff
  18. Really nice looking pup, reminds me a bit of my Molly in the second picture must be the shape of the white marking on her body lots of puppy-envy over here
  19. I second that! When I was a teenager we were on holiday in Spain and our dog rolled in human feces. Apparently the builders from the house that was being built next door used the adjacent orchard as a toilet - same place we walked the dog. She was super happy with her new human perfume. I was so glad I didn't have to clean her up Mum obviously wasn't too happy.
  20. If possible I would not give a young pup the kitchen and dining room, but choose one of the rooms to keep her in. I would like my pup to have some space to stretch her legs, but not too much to get up to no good An X-pen is a good idea if you're afraid she might chew on furniture and the like. Did you leave her alone in there at your work? Or were you in the same room with her? If she is used to being alone in there with you out of sight I don't see a problem when you use it at home. Even if you didn't it might not be a problem, but if you could practice leaving her in that set up at home and work up to longer periods that would help your pup. Practice makes perfect
  21. I am sorry you are so frustrated with your pup, it is an awful feeling to have - I have been there, although it sounds like you're in deeper than I have been. What has always helped me is to come up with a gameplan for the things I want to change. For instance my dog used to get worked up before going for a walk, stomping on my feet, whining. I could get her to sit down, but that wouldn't calm her down. I find it difficult to describe the intensity behind it which set me on edge - which I would not have with a happy-go-lucky labrador getting excited for a walk, whining and being boisterous. It took me a while to figure out a ritual that worked. Now she has to wait on the doormat while I get ready, this worked like a charm. I added fetching her leash to it and sitting next to me while I open the door. Small rituals like this have really helped me to calm my dog down. My dog really wants to know what is expected of her, so I make it very clear. For instance she has a difficult time settling when we are at my sister's house. So to help her I attach her leash somewhere where I want her to lie down. This helps her to settle right down. Of course she is used to settle at home and is an adult. But it is a good idea to practice this by having the dog on a leash lying down at your feet while you work/sit at the table/something like that. As for training sessions, 3-4 repetitions is fine. I tend to do something like that with my adult dog, to keep things light and fun. Or I ask her only once before I give her food, or before we cross a street, or at another time that is convenient. Another thing: mindless ballgames seemed to only make my dog riled up and obsessed whenever she saw a ball. I have changed things around and arranged my ball/toy games to engage her brain more. This has made it much more enjoyable for both of us. Some of the things I do are: - hiding toys - throwing something, making her wait and make eyecontact before she can get it - coming up with new "rules" for when I throw something (for instance she has to drop it in a box now between my feet before I will throw it - when she gets it I move the box further and further way) Most of my frustrations with my dog have been about impulse control. Perhaps you can add some tasks/games to work on that too. And lastly, in my experience a BC (mine is also from working lines) is not just having a dog, but a hobby. My dog wants to be involved in everything I do and really wants to work. So I try to involve her in everything as much as I can and to give her jobs. She absolutely loves to fetch my slippers, she really perks up when she feels useful.
  22. It must be the name! One of Molly's halfsisters is the spitting image of your Molly, except she has prick ears. Can't seem to find a picture of her unfortunately...
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