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  1. I agree that you don't need a special ball to do this unless you want to go to some competitions. A soccer ball works great for this kind of play. My former foster dog Kelso (whom many of you may remember) loves to play "trieball" with his soccer ball, and also has enjoyed an exercise ball or beach ball in the same way. He noses them down the hallway as fast as he can, and his person sets up obstacle courses for him to go through.
  2. Personally, I am opposed to the e-collars, and I think every other kind of training needs to be fully explored, and fully exhausted, before resorting the use of one. And only in a life-death case, which I do recognize this is. There are situations in which using the e collar to train a solid recall ends up allowing the dog to have much more freedom than they would otherwise, if all other training methods fail. But my suggestion would be to use the long line (hold onto it all the time if it's too hard to grab) and rewards for at least a few months if you have not already before using the
  3. Cheyenne, the border collie who lived with me on the beach in Mexico (and then later in the US) loved the ocean, and we played with the waves every day. My Jester, with whom I lived on the California coast at the start of our time together, was the same and we always played you chase me I chase you on the beach. He also loved to chase the waves out and get chased back in by the next wave, and was very adept at the game, never going very far out, keeping his feet on the ground. It was a joy to watch.
  4. Thanks for that information, Journey. Although I am not ready yet, due to having an elder small dog who should have a peaceful life, I will be looking for a good border collie puppy at some point and will remember this as a possibility.
  5. I am so sorry to hear this. I know that you will make her last days as wonderful for her as possible, just as you have done for her life before this. It is so hard to let go. I wish you good days with your lovely Cressa while she is still here. Sending her a little gentle petting......
  6. All dogs are different, and how the game is handled makes a huge difference as well. My experience is that if the fetch toy...ball or frisbie or stuffy....is something the owner strictly controls, if the fetch is not more than one of many activities the dog gets to do on a regular basis, if the ground surface and temperature and other such safety things are considered, and the owner is the sole decision maker as to when, with what, where and for how long the game is played, it's great. I have not had a dog obsess about it to the point of it being a problem. Jester was the one who loved i
  7. I don't know if this will be helpful or not, or even if it is applicable. It's just what I thought of right away when reading your post. So, take or leave as you think is best. I one time went to help someone with a behavior problem with her dog on leash. I let her walk the dog where I could watch so I could see what was happening, and noted the behavior. Then I asked her to go inside, and I took the dog's leash, expecting to start from the beginning to train the dog. But instead, instantly the dog behaved. The owner couldn't believe it when she came out to watch. In this case it b
  8. Good for Parker and Piper! And good for you, too. :-) I love success stories, and isn't it fun to see a puppy discover he can do something?
  9. You are welcome, Michael Parkey, but to be clear I don't think anyone meant that a person was mindless for playing fetch with a dog; they were cautioning against letting it be mindless for the dog. I have never had a dog who loved to fetch do it in a way that I would have ever called "mindless", or "ocd jacked up behavior over an inanimate object" myself. But apparently this can happen, because the people here who have said that must have seen it themselves or they wouldn't be saying these things with such certainty. As I said, one's opinions are formed by one's experiences. I have
  10. I immediately thought of the head tilt and poor vision being the cause of the circling, also. I would suggest having her thoroughly checked by a vet. there could be something you can do to help her with that. Even if not, my thought is that if you learn as much as you can about her exact condition, there will be ways you can accommodate it for her so that she can cope with it better. Like, as was suggested, maybe walking her on the other side of your body, or something equally simple that would help her. Thanks for taking in this dog. She's lucky you came along for her. :-) As for cr
  11. Well, Journey, ....and Diane.... and gvc-border, apparently you have had very different experience with fetch with your dog(s) than I have had, and I certainly respect what you say based on your own experience. My experience and therefore my opinion is completely different, and the fact is that each dog and each situation is different. In the case of my Jester, my fetchingest dog, there was nothing "mindless" about fetch for him, as I changed it up all the time - asking him to do something before I threw it, or to wait and then go find it, and so on. The game definitely was not for me, b
  12. I don't think that's against the rules. sometimes picking up the dog is the best thing to do in a circumstance. Wouldn't want that to be the only thing you do, and clearly it isn't, but if it's helping in some instances, I don't see a thing wrong with it.
  13. I completely agree with urge to herd, above. In my opinion, teaching my border collies to fetch turned out to be one of the best things I taught them. It allowed me to provide exercise for them even on days when I was sick or too tired to go outside much or to hike or take a long walk. They never minded if I just threw a soft toy in the living room, and no matter how tired or sick, no matter the weather, you can always do that. I have even had a fetch-obsessed border collie, and there was no problem with it at all. He learned that he couldn't ask me to throw, but if I told him to go get
  14. Meghan, under the circumstances I think you are making the right decision to hire a behaviorist. Make sure it's a positive reinforcement trainer; not all are. Best way to do that is have a conversation ahead of time. Make it clear you are not trying to get them to tell you all their methods for free, but just wanting a sense of how they approach training dogs. Best of luck!
  15. It sounds as though you are doing OK with this, using the clicker and treats. You will just have to be patient and give it more time. One week is a very short time to change a behavior that has been present for a long time. If you keep up the work with the dogs, eventually you will have success. You just have to be persistent. The fact that you have made progress means it's working; the fact that they are not going down the stairs yet doesn't mean it's not working. Keep at it and don't give up and you and the dogs will get there.
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