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  1. I recently purchased Aled Owens new DVD "Time Well Spent" and have really enjoyed watching it. First I really like the title, which Aled refers to the time spent in training up a dog properly, is time well spent. In the video, Aled takes several different young dogs and shows how he does thier beginning training (including his recent International Supreme Champion Roy), up thro driving and shedding. It's nice to see how he handles dogs that are just beginning thier training, including one he refers to as the "little bulldozer" Aled does a voice over to explain what is going on during each training session. So everything is easy to hear during the video. Enjoyed listening to his accent too (did not have any problem understanding him with his accent) I have been surprisingly drawn back to the video over and over again, to watch the flow of the training. Maybe because I have several young dogs that I am training up at present. I found it was money well spent. Nancy O
  2. My funniest moment didn't even involve dogs! We were over a friend's farm trimming hooves. There were 3 of us in a 12x12 stall with a bunch of sheep. It was my turn to sit on the bucket and trim and hold the sheep and Nancy M's turn to catch the sheep. As she was trying to catch the sheep, she ended up riding it backwards, as only Nancy M can, in her ride she and the sheep hit me while I was sitting on the bucket, knocking me onto the ground and knocking my hoof trimmers out of my hand. The trimmers flew thro the air and imbedded themselves deeply into the oak boards of the stall. We were all laughing so hysterically that it took a very long time till we could continue. Somehow my best stories are when trimming feet I had a large dorset lamb (about 100lbs) that was limping and had the brillant idea to be lazy and have my Ben dog just hold all the sheep in a corner of an alleyway to me (about 50 sheep) and I would find the limper and just tip her. So I set my trimmers on the post (after knowing from the above experience how dangerous they can be) and got ahold and tipped this very large dorset lamb. With her firmly held between my thighs, I realized my trimmers were just out of my reach. So I took one step to the right. Stepped on a rock, lost my balance and fell over onto the ground into the other 49 sheep with the very large lamb still firmly held between my legs. Of course all the other sheep spooked and started to run, towards Ben who was valiantly trying to stop them. I am laying on the ground, with said sheep still firmly held between my thighs, yelling to Ben " LET THEM GO!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THEM GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally realize I will not be able to get up with the sheep still between my legs, so let her go. Fool that I am, I decide to try again. So have Ben gather and hold all the sheep to me again, tipped the same lamb, found out it was the wrong lamb after all! Trimmed her feet anyway and then got and did the limper. Next day I had to go for my bone density scan, they asked me if I was having any problems. I was laughing so hysterically that I could barely say to them, "Well if I didn't break my hip yesterday when I fell with a sheep between my legs, I guess my bones aren't too brittle!" I can't even imagine what they thought! Nancy O
  3. Not really sure of the outrun, very poor judge of distances, but would think it is at least 400 yards. Maybe Marilyn T would know the distance. It spans 2 fields, so it is tricky for the dogs. Very nice setting. Most handlers sit on top of a hill, where the campers are, and watch the trial. Nice areas to walk the dogs and a large stream they can swim in if they want. We had fun at the local bar last year and intend to return this year. Nancy O
  4. Robin, I had contacted Dave and he plans on having his trial again this year. If you can come up for Old Chatham SDT in NY at the end of April, it is a great trial, challenging field, commercial undogged flock of dairy sheep that don't want to pen. Caroline, I'll send you a pm Nancy O
  5. I've bought some of Tommy's sheep the other year, and they have done well. I am looking for some smaller sheep to mix in with my commercial dorset mix flock, though not tall as show dorsets are, they are large and broad. I've sent an email to Kay. Emily: Rising Sun Farms seems to have the regular cheviots that are taller and heavier. Nancy O
  6. thanks, that was the person I was thinking of. Someone has given me her email Address. Nancy O
  7. Looking for border cheviot lambs for sale, don't need to be registered. I live in SE PA. Thought there was someone in VA with a flock, but tried a search and couldn't come up with the information. You can contact me at Nancy Obernier Thanks, Nancy O
  8. Robin, he's looking really nice. Merry Christmas! Nancy O
  9. Nancy O ps Brynn is away and didn't make the photo shoot.
  10. Hi Geri, My appologies, I hadn't seen the Training overview section when I had posted before. I thought I had watched the entire DVD as it finished on it's own each time, but then went back after your post and specifically clicked on the training overview section. I'm not very DVD literate, we only have 2 DVDs in the house, Alasdair's shedding clinic and now Derek's training DVD. Does my world seem very narrow the DVD set is crammed packed full of information. I guess I was more surprised when most of the DVD was "Talking heads", but as you listened to him it didn't really matter. The "Talking Heads" and demos with people, very very clearly explained each of Derek's training methods. I felt that a person with very little experience, could very easily use this video to progress in trianing with thier dog. I am relooking at the video to maybe change the way I do some of my training on my pups. Also a different method for the look back, I have used his hard lie down from his book, as a cue that a look back is coming, and as Derek pointed out in this new DVD, that can sometimes get you into trouble, as evidenced with my run at Edgeworth with one of my dogs Nancy O
  11. I am in SE PA. I feed large bales of hay, mainly because I don't live at our farm where the animals are kept. I have stored 24 large bales outside with success (about 8 ton). They are on pallets that are completely covered with tarps, to keep away the ground moisture. I then covered 2 separate groups with large tarps that were secured to the pallets to keep them from blowing away and from rain getting on the hay. I think the success is in how well you secure the tarps. I did this for a few years with success and for the last 2 years had gotten a metal carport with sides and both ends open. I tarp each end and put the bales up on pallets covered with tarps. The last bale is a green and dry as the first bale. I have a tractor to move the bales and it is very tricky to maneuver them under the carport to place the second bale on top of the first as there is not much clearance. the sheep use the carport for shade in the summer and I have also used half of it for lambing in the past, once half the hay is used. I can always see where mice have been in the hay and they chew the tarps, so periodically have to replace some tarps when they get too many holes in them. Nancy O ps I'm glad I got my hay in early Sept. My friend told me hay prices at New Holland this past week were about $300/ton!
  12. Got my DVD set and watched it. He is able to very clearly explain a method he is using. During the video he often uses a person as a dog, so that he can demonstrate what he wants to accomplish, and then he will briefly use a dog to demonstrate the principal. I thought the section on "outruns" did not really deal with teaching outruns. Other than that, I thought it would make a good DVD, especially for a novice handler, or a not so novice one since shedding, look back and international shedding were all covered very well. On the down side, I would have liked to see more dogs worked and see problems the dogs had and how he would go about correcting them, maybe in a new DVD Geri? Maybe titled something like "When training does not go as planned" Its' interesting to see how some of his methods have changed from his book and other videos. I have never had the pleasure of working with him at a clinic. Nancy O
  13. I ordered it also, hasn't arrived yet. Have really liked his other videos. It sounds like it is packed with information. Nancy O
  14. I've found what you would use for a litter of pups would be different than when you get your puppy at 7-8 weeks old. The one litter I had, I bought lineolum and put it under the whelping box and xpen that was attached to the whelping pen. When I get a pup at 7-8 weeks old, they stay in a small crate, big enough to stand up in, but that is all. When they are crated I want them to be quiet (no toys or bones etc), the small space helps to prevent them from peeing in the crate. All my pups have slept thro the night as soon as I have gotten them home, 10pm to 5-6am. They do sleep next to my bed and if they make any noise they get a "quiet" from me, they don't usually make any noise after that. I work 1/2 days, so the pup is crated for about 5-6 hours, in the same small crate, when I am at work. Right now I do have an xpen setup in my kitchen for my 9 week old pup, because my husband recently had surgery and if I'm not able to keep an eye on him, I'll put him in the xpen so he isn't bothering my husband. This pup is NOT a climber, but my bitch that is 8 months old, was a climber from the day I got her. Where do you find a 7 1/2 week old pup in the camper? Well, if you look UP, you will find her on top of the counters. Put a cover on the xpen and secure with bungees, she would push the top aside, secure the top with snaps, she will dig her way out, unless she excavates a large boulder! Her mother is an escape artist also. She's the cute thing in my avataar Nancy O
  15. Julie, was wondering if the groundhogs where back in droves at Seclusival? I've been told that is what caused alot of the sniffing and peeing at the top at that field. 2 years ago, most of the groundhogs were gone, as was most of the sniffing and peeing. I would prefer the sheep to be held less tight at the top, if they drift, let the dog running pick them up and then start fetch from there. When held really tight, as the dog comes around and is starting to lift it's sheep, and the pressure it released by either the setout dog and/or setout person, the sheep will really pull to one side or another, actually causing 2 lifts to occur, now the dog running should compensate, but you usually end up with sheep going off line to some degree, till the dog lifts it's sheep again. Pet peeve is when holding with corn, the setout person keeps throwing corn down, sometimes over and over again, even when the dog is behind it's sheep and trying to lift them. Julie wrote: Yes I was , but he is usually correct at the top. By the way, he is NOT a natural outrunner. I had to spend a very long time getting him to outrun correctly! I hope to some day have the pleasure of a natural outrunning dog! Nancy O
  16. Does anyone know the results of the CBCA Championships this past weekend? Nancy O
  17. Neither Hog nor Lamb! But I hear thier showroom is worth a visit. Nancy O
  18. Earlier this summer, we had asked people if they would be interested in attending a Free Handler's Dinner at the Finals. We are happy to announce that Battlefield Harley Davidson will be hosting a Free Handler's Dinner on Friday September 21st from 5p-7pm at the site of Battlefield Harley Davidson, less than 5 miles from the trial field. Due to the overwhelming response to the dinner, we will need to limit the initial number of tickets per volunteer to 2 tickets. If you are a volunteer and had requested ONE ticket, we can not increase your number of tickets. Extra tickets may become available as Friday approaches, so we ask that volunteers who had not responded originally and would like to attend the dinner, check back at the hospitality tent on Friday to see if tickets are available. If your plans have changed, and you will not be attending the dinner or coming to the Finals, please email me immediately at obernier@oacns.com and let me know, as we have volunteers who would like to attend the dinner, but due to limited space, we can not accomadate them at this time. Children will not require a ticket. If you are a HANDLER, and had not previously responded, or did not know if you would be attending the dinner, and would like to attend, please email me immediately at obernier@oacns.com Information, menu and directions to the dinner will be posted soon on the Sheepdog Finals site at http://www.sheepdogfinals2007.com/ Nancy Obernier and Elayne Holbrook
  19. Hey Melanie! I would go with a repeat breeding, tho they are not always that easy to find. It will at least give you an idea of what you might get and whether it's what you are interested in or not. Hear you are coming to the Finals. See you then Nancy O
  20. If you do a search on the internet for dog intestinal worms you'll find pictures of different types of worms. Since the worm you found was about 5" long is sounds like a round worm, usually tapeworms are found in segments about 1/4" - 1/2" long and looks like a small piece of rice. Some wormers are only one dose, some are 3 doses, depends on the wormer. Usually you will need a follow up stool sample to the vet and repeat deworming. You didn't mention how old Molly was. Nancy O
  21. Christine, Yup, the bones will heal faster. Glad you won't need surgery! At least your 6 weeks will be up by the end of August, you didn't want to work dogs in the heat of the summer anyway. Renee, I cheat anymore also, no board fence, but I use an old large hard plastic container that I can stand on and get above the sheep. Congratulations on your win with Bette! Does that give her enough points to run in Open, along with Nursery, at the Finals? Nancy O
  22. Hi Jeanne, Thanks for the suggestion. Worked him yesterday in the heat of the day, as I worked in the morning and last evening. Sheep were out about the same distance again. He left my feet with a decent speed, around 9 o'clock, I could see him checking in (without slowing down) and continued to cast himself out wider and continued to check in and cast out till he ended up at a nice distance behind his sheep, and was not flat at the top. I'll keep an eye on him and do what you suggest with the shush or extra flank command if i see him slowing up again. Jeanne wrote: Yes, he's not real comfortable with that distance yet, I've been trying to lengthen his outrun, hence the reason that I've been stopping him and pushing him out. Maybe one of these days I'll have one of those natural outrunning dogs, a pleasure yet to come See you in Canada? Nancy O
  23. Hi Jeanne, I have a 20 month old that has been coming along. I've been away and haven't worked him for about 2 weeks, a very good friend stayed at my farm and watched my dogs for me while I was gone (she did not work any of the dogs). Before I left I had been working on pushing him out on his outrun. He has been coming in around 2-1 o'clock and 10-11 o'clock and being somewhat flat at the top. I had been working him up close, around 50 yards, and stopping him as he starts to come in and then giving him a get out. He seemed to have caught on. He has a nice lift, can stop him if needed, but don't usually as long as he is lifting nicely. Yesterday when I worked him for a short time, after I returned from my trip, I sent him about 125 yards, he was a little slow going, as he got to the 2-1 o'clock spot (where I normally would have stopped him and given him the get out) he slowed even more, turned his head out and kicked out wider. He did this both sides. I was concerned about the slowness (not excessively slow, but slower than I would want a dog outrunning, he doesn't have alot of eye, so I wasn't worried that his eye was slowing him up) but happy to see him thinking about what he was doing. My tendency at this time, would be to let him be a little slow on the outrun and let him work it out. But was not sure. Let me know what you think. Nancy O
  24. Christine, Just back from visiting my mom and sister in Florida. sorry to hear about the injury. Had a sheep take me down on the side of the knee at a Jack Knox clinic. We were near a fence asking a dog to come into the sheep, well she did and when she busted the sheep they ran every which way, including into the side of my knee, didn't think I would be able to get up. Jack said afterwards, that I should have been standing against the fence, I told him he should have told me that to start with Never had it looked at professionally, should have and would if it happened again. Took forever to be able to walk normal. Sometimes surgery is the faster way to heal. Nancy O
  25. Becca, I have several of the Kuranda dog beds for my border collies, and they all love them. One has been outside for well over 6 years (it is the one that allows the water to drain thro). they hold up very well. Rinse with a hose. We recently built dog kennels in our basement family room, OK, dog room. Each dog has a kuranda dog bed in thier kennel and they all use them. they are basically the same price as the one you posted about from dog.com. If you are looking for them, shop around on the internet for the best price, make sure you consider the shipping cost if shipping is not included. Nancy O
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