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  1. wait! Have to say, this is such a civilized set of forums; the sophistication of the op's comment/question and the conversation following is equalled where, I wonder...(taking me out of the picture, I mean) let's go...
  2. as you say, interesting. I think I agree with you and your mentor's thinking though. It's beginning to hurt my head, .....but I can't resist: Maybe the first scenario is unintended random reinforcement. If we do this: Dog sent out - the reward: stock to work, consistently. Dog responds to single cue for 'bark' - reward: tidbit, always.... Until the trainer decides to tighten up the behaviour, .in which case, he: sends the dog for non-existant sheep, or thanks the dog for a single bark response but doesn't feed. And then makes sure next time the dog for sure finds sheep, and next time the dog has a tidbit for the bark response. It works behaviourally for general training although it demands a staggered, now/not now/now/now/now/not now...unpredictability. The premise being that dogs are gamblers by nature; random reinforcement strongly appeals to that ...I'm just wondering aloud.
  3. here too see that example as being just driver error. . Lying's more like sending the dog out for something you know not to be there,
  4. My very selfish employer flies his dogs 7 hours to a second home a couple of times a year so they can be with him - instead of leaving them, for a couple of months at a time - His dogs are both complete wrecks about certain things: urban subway entrances, sewer grates, loud noises, trains (i e subway), jackhammers, construction noise, car interiors, the sight of travel crates, suitcases, and being held for longer than 30 seconds or so. Pinned ears, glazed eyes, heavy panting, prostration - so much cortisol in those dogs for so long. both of his dogs have had spontaneous GI issues (HGE twice) , one has developed hip dysplasia, the other pannus....So I'm very biased against flying dogs because I think it's just too foreign. No matter how you coat it, it's hot, dark, lonely and noisy and it vibrates.
  5. I think that it's never a good idea, when you're out and being confronted, to do much more than say to another owner "get that dog away from me" in a serious tone of voice that is nowhere near a shout. That implies that it's me who's having the issue - who knows, maybe I'm phobic, or anxious, or just a wuss, but my personal recourse can be to go call a cop about a guy threatening me with a dog. My dog doesn't really have any recourse...he's just got me. If I start yelling, my dog now thinks I'm sharing her trauma - so now she's got 2 things to worry about - and within 2 secs, she's wearing that incident - bottom line is, walking dogs can be a real pain.
  6. yeah I dont know how a dog feels when his acidy gastric juices are running because he's used to being fed "now" and I withhold. I do know that I feel miserable when I really need food; Im not foisting that on my group.
  7. great, good start. Good idea to teach every kiddie that their dogs are never messed with in their crates or beds. I find that the worst transgressors are the kids that have had Goldens in their lives. lol
  8. Off the bed, permanently,...for now. He's much too new to you to be on the furniture or in the bed. Those are privileges that old hand dogs get after they have settled in, defer to the kids, defer to your hubby, or anyone else who wants their space. For the same reason, don't let the kids near him when he's on his bed or in his crate..."let sleeping dogs lie"is not just a metaphor. If he jumps at someone or bites because you don't sense his 'hands-off' signals, you'll lose him for sure. Then ask the trainer to start work on trading up with food, as well as all the other things you need to know to have you and your kids around a dog who resource guards. You need lots of time with a newly adopted dog to be quiet around him and assess what he's like and you owe your kids their safety...years of rehoming dogs have taught me that abandoned or homeless dogs have a honeymoon period of about 2-8 weeks in your house before they start to test the waters. I'm guessing yours fits in there somewhere...it's all normal but needs a bit of thinking about.
  9. seconding that opinion - we have greyhounds too and you absolutely don't want staring or waiting for or vocalizing-at because it's predator behaviour. And please remember that cats out are for chasing and maybe killing, even if the same cat lives inside together with the same dog...open the door and the cat becomes lunch.
  10. I know but wouldn't we be calling that an elephant mix? lol
  11. well, I for one, read "135 lb lab" and started to laugh - what? not 150 lbs??
  12. just weird people, is all... you'd wonder what the payoff is - attention, I guess
  13. yeah - I thought Id seen that name somewhere else Also assumed it was a troll cause it pulls all the right chains
  14. thank you everyone. I identify with 'restrained grip' as it matches the feeling I get when she deals with me albeit it looks benign. there's never any teeth and most of the time she'll do it at a walk but it always comes after frustration, even if it's mild. She's not feral but 4 years in the woods living ownerless on the edge of a reservation has left its mark. To this day she prefers to have a frozen water source outside that she can break through with her paw to lap under the ice. Her recall outside is lovely - until she puts her face up to the breeze, tastes it, rolls her one eye in my direction, aaaand she's gone...down the side of our 50ft steep ravine for exactly 20 minutes. it's like something out of Littlest Hobo but she doesn't leave. . So she's on a 30 ft line with me...interesting dog
  15. Im curious about something. I have a black and white 6? maybe-year old collie. She has had at least 3 litters in an abusive previous life, lost an eyeball to some kind of "dogfighting" (nobody wants to tell me what kind). She's cuddly, happy and utterly delightful. She would make the perfect 12 year-old kid's dog . She waits politely for her dinner, checks to make sure the other dogs don't drop dead from poisoning every time there's food served and if they don't she checks hers carefully and then bolts it. To teach her something I can use food or kisses. She loves to boss my other dogs with her voice and her paws but never pushes it unreasonably. On a daily basis though if I am a bit slow opening the deck door for her when she wants in she will shove it sharply with her head as she passes through, and just to further make her point, she will bonk me on the leg with her nose. If I call her inside she comes at a dead run but bonks me on the thigh as she passes by. Any direct request is met totally cheerfully but I'm disciplined for it ...as she complies. I'm pretty sure the little rebukes have to do with managing pups and life all alone with no one else to rely on. This is also the first time Ive had a dog that was spayed so late (4) - does anyone "recognize" thatt kind of stance? There's nothing I need to fix here, I'm more looking for similarities I think. Thanks!
  16. lolNow, I love my hound to death but he's an idiot. And, if my son starts to leave his bed in the night I wake up before his other foot hits the floor. But the collies blow me off after about 8 at night so I just ignore them...they're more on the human side of the ledger anyway...it would feel rude of me to bug them.
  17. I know I shouldn't laugh but your description is so clear. Bratty girl lol . I think since she's getting a bang out of working you, that you should probably turn the table and drop the leash the minute she puts it in her mouth and just refuse to do anything but study the nearest tree. (Might want to put your foot on the leash discreetly when you drop it). It may take quite an investment of your time but you can always reinforce it the same way as life goes on for silly adult dogs who get spring fever and decide to have a go too. Doing nothing gets really old when the dog begins to suspect she's causing it ...and the best part is you don't need to have said a word.
  18. It depends on who it is. Greyhounds aren't allowed to wander out of my bedroom. No good ever comes of wandering hounds. Retriever is stuck in there too. Collies get to wander; they're girls, they know the score. All over the house on shifts of half an hour or so. At 6 in the morning collies arrive at my side of the bed for their noses to be kissed and squinched briefly. at which point they flop in with the greyhound till 7 when there's more snuggles before reluctant up.
  19. OSU? That's the greyhound peoples' go-to for complicated stuff.
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