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    I have 4 yr old Border Collie. His favourite hobbies are helping round the house and playing football! :0)
  1. I like Jack Russells too. Saw a lovely white wire haired one once, never seen another one since, she was so sweet (older female) I like them cos they're small but still more sturdy and not as fragile looking as the tiny toy dogs. I'd imagine though they'd have an high prey drive?
  2. I was looking at Cavaliers a few years back before I got JJ but after reading about their issues and that its was common for dog to have heart problems and still be sold at full price. I wasn't ok with that. It's one thing if you take on an older rescue knowing it has a heart murmur but to buy a puppy that you pay pedigree prices for because its supposedly been health tested and bred from healthy parents isn't the same to me. As I wanted it as a 'working dog' at the time to take over from Inca and to be able to be my helper for at least 10 yrs hopefully, I wasn't willing to take the risk. It's a shame though as they are lovely dogs. JJ has a cavalier 'friend' down the road called Toby, he had both his kneecaps replaced by the time he was 5 and though he's only a couple of years older than JJ you wouldn't think so, you'd think he was much older as he waddles along (doesn't help that he's overweight too) but he's a lovely placid dog.
  3. Yeah thats whats putting me off alot of terriers round here are owned by old people cos their small they think they'll be easy and they can't control them, they all seem to be yappy little things that are allowed to charge to the end of their extending leads at other people and their dogs which won't be safe as I use mobility scooter. I thought dog like chihuahua's and paps would be too tiny and worried about them getting under scooter wheels, but most of the more hardy small breeds are terriers or are crossbreeds with terrier in them. A friend has a chihuahua x lab cross (don't ask how they managed it, I haven't a clue..lol!) but she's always had a lovely temperament, very quiet, biddable dog obviously the lab temperament but looks wise about 'chunky jack russell' size but black with white down her chest. She would be perfect size for me if I could find another like her! (The dog is 17 now and was neutered young so no chance of getting pups from her). I love the collie temperament but didn't want another as big, shame no-one is breeding mini border collies, odd that mini aussies have taken off but not mini border collies?? It doesn't have to be able to keep up with the scooter on the roads if its small enough to sit on the footplate when we have to cross roundabouts go along busier roads etc (JJ runs alongside on the pavement) if it was a breed that didn't need as much exercise it can just wait until we get to the quiet paths, through woods and over fields to let it off for a good run about so need s a good recall as they would inevitably go where I can't get the scooter when sniffing about to go after them. Maybe I should look at small spaniels who would be bred for a good recall and obedience for being around guns? (gundogs) as a smaller companion for him?
  4. Hi I have Border collie 4 yrs old. Lost my old girl (collie X) sadly last March age 15. I'm thinking of adding another dog this year and quite liked the idea of a having a Border Collie and a Border Terrier but know nothing about them. I've met some really sweet quiet well behaved ones and also met one thats extremely reactive and sound sensitive (I use a mobility scooter and it goes mental every time I go past). I was looking at a BT X on Dogs Trust but it mentioned she was sound sensitive also so wondered if this was going to be a problem with me using a mobility scooter? I know collies can be too but I've had JJ from 8 weeks old so he's never known anything else, would it work better if I got a BT pup so it also got used to sound of mobility scooter from a very young age? I'd like a very dark female with lot of black on if I went for this breed what colour is this classed as I don't understand what they mean by 'grizzle' when describing colours? Thanks Kati
  5. I probably read them when I first joined but I can't remember now, sorry I thought you were a group for ALL Border Collie owners not just working dogs. JJ did actually come from a sheepdog centre, though he works as my dual skills assistance dog (alerts to sounds and helps with physical tasks), and was bought with that purpose in mind. So he has had extensive training from a young age and can do a number of tasks for me. We just seem to getting a few odd inconsistent behaviours recently since my old dog passed away and I'm not sure whether its a lack of confidence on his part due to loss of his companion whose being here since he arrived at 8 weeks old and helped train him up, something maybe adopting an older calmer companion may help with or maybe he's experiencing sight issues that would also explain some puzzling reactions to things he previously didn't react that way to.
  6. JJ's had 'lots of training' with this everyday for the last 4 years of his life, he goes out twice a day everyday and has to trot alongside my mobility scooter on the road in places where there are no footpaths (for us to get to quieter lanes, fields where he can go off-lead). If i see the car/bike coming up behind us in my rear view mirror I tell him and he slows down if we can safely pull over and stop I do if we can't we just have to keep moving with the traffic. I'm deaf so he often will hear something like that before it comes into sight anyway as lots of blind bends round these country lanes. It seems to have to be moving at a certain speed to trigger his head following it and dropping into crouch/stalk and seems to have to hit mostly his peripheral vision on his right side to trigger it too. It's not for example something like cats in general as he can walk past a cat on his left side that he hasn't seen (if it doesn't move) but if it's on other side of road and darts fast (like across the road) that will trigger the reaction, as I feel its more the motion of something zipping through his right peripheral field rather than it being specifically a car, a cat etc. As we pass many cars and them us and he's not reacting to every single one like that! We've walked alongside a dual carriageway with a steady stream of cars moving at a steady pace and he's been fine and happily sniffing along the large grass verge to his left on an extending lead walking and happily with lead loose. yet been on a road when there's only us and suddenly he'd shoot forwards in a crouch so I'm looking round to see what he's heard and usually its a car flying our way round a blind bend that he's heard long before I can see it coming, when it does pass us I relaise its either got a very noisy exhaust or its a motorbike, so the noise also may act as a trigger for some things. which given I'm profoundly deaf an can't hear them until they're on top of us makes it difficult for me to avoid. I do try and take him out at the quietest times of the day when I want to go a road with no footpaths on his left for him to run alongside and also do some traffic training later in the day when can't avoid more traffic about. He will be 4 in Sept and I've been doing this daily with him since he was a small puppy. Again it seemed to have been under control before but seems more nervous again lately, whether its because my other dog is no longer with us for him to use as a guide, or he's experienced a decline in sight I'm not sure but I will be taking him for another eye test to rule that out. I do think having a companion would help him but would prefer if I did go with another collie it didn't have that high prey drive instinct and felt one like the ladies dog that didn't react to cars etc might give him confidence walking alongside him. Particuarly if its because he is experiencing sight issues so things moving fast across line of vision is un-nerving him (maybe he's only seeing shadows or a flash of light on that side or something?..similar to them getting over stimulated by laser lights?) I managed to stay ahead and warn him of every car that was going to pass us fast today whilst out and he was fine when he knew when it was coming and to let it pass. Yesterday he reacted to a retriever that suddenly appeared alongside him (I didn't hear it either) but once he realised what it was (I said ..oh its a doggy look, he wants to play) he played with it for a good 5 mins while me and the dogs owner chatted. Now I know the dogs name if it comes again so I can say 'look Max is coming to play' or something and he'll be fine next time, so a few little niggly things here and there are making me wonder about his sight more and more lately and not just behavioural cos he's having to cope without my older dog guiding him, though that could be adding to his confidence issues if he has had sight issues too and I hadn't relaised.
  7. ..and how much difference is there in there temperaments? I have working bred collie he's extremely intelligent can learn new jobs after one attempt etc but his herding/prey drive is very strong even now at 4 years old (despite the fact he's never worked sheep) so when we're out walking he has to be on lead and have to be one step ahead of him for triggers like noisy cars/motorbikes racing past that will trigger his stalk/chase instinct. I see a bloke out from a neighbouring village their collie has always been off-lead even near road she wont go on road she has no instinct to chase whatsoever and very submissive. Unfortunately I don't know where he lives and as he's always jogging usually some distance from us I've never managed to catch up with him to ask. I've known his female dog from a young pup when his partner used to walk her with their older dog and she has always been like this. The woman did say when I was talking to her once a few years back (when they were both puppies) that 'Gem' wasn't as bright as JJ and they were nicknamed 'Barbie collies' cos they have the looks without the drive and intelligence, (not saying I think this, but this is what the woman said to me) but she didn't say or I don't remember her saying where they got her from. She was admiring JJ's drive but said she wanted an 'easier' dog. I never seen any collies advertised as 'pet lines' or 'easier to handle than working bred' or anything though? .. was it just that one dog's personality or are all pet/show bred collies easier in comparison to train/live with than working bred dogs? Anyone else got one of each? Just curious!
  8. I've learned he's alot more sensitive to my emotions, even the tiniest fluctuation. My old girl was pretty bombproof and loved greeting everyone, JJ is more 'mummy's boy' I think and much more sensitive. I was going to see if he was better with them in garden if they played football with him or something if it was nice weather when they next came and tell them not to pet him, just throw his ball or something, but maybe best just leaving him in his crate. Thanks to everyone who replied.
  9. Thanks. What struck me as odd the first time when he had patch of fur missing from under his eye is that she never said anything, if he caught it when he landed too close to a fence or something she never said despite seeing me look round garden to work out what he had done it on. If she had had caught him with her nail if he'd jumped up and she'd pushed him away she never said she had caught him by accident. It just made no sense at the time there was no explanation and she'd been the only person in the garden with him so had to have either seen or done something (the garden's not that big he'd be completely out of sight). What made me consider this a possibility is years back when she'd been dog sitting my previous dog, her and her daughter had been messing about with my computer and joystick (it has special accessibility settings which they didn't know) Instead of admitting this when I returned they said nothing even when I had got laptop out to show them something they sat there looking at each other knowing I was going to try and use my joystick to find it wouldn't work properly. I think If i hadn't wanted to show them something they would have gone home and said nothing... although this has nothing to do with JJ (as he wasn't born at that time!) I was aware when this incident happened with JJ that things had happened before and she'd said nothing. The shape of missing fur under his eye could have been from a nail catching and lifting the patch right off as she has longer nails than I have, this is mainly why I'm wondering if it's just them that he doesn't trust and he's picking up something about their body language or intentions that I missed? If it was so innocent why did she never say, he'd jumped up a little too strong on her and she'd accidently caught him? Again we've been out today and seen several people and other dogs and had no problems. It's difficult as I'm mostly housebound (other than getting round village on mobility scooter) and won't see anyone else, she mentioned coming back in summer on her own when we can go in garden but I'm reluctant to leave him unattended with her (eg if I needed to go back into loo or get drinks etc) so I'd probably leave him in a seperate room when they visit in future as its usually only for a couple of hours. They were both sat on the sofa when he had gone into say hello last sunday and he suddenly started snapping and growling. I'm in a wheelchair so I'm always sat other than transferring between seats. I guess as she wasn't completely honest in the past on a few occasions I'm not convinced that my friend or her partner hadn't already pushed him away when he first went in causing him to snap the second time he put his hand out towards him. Only other thing I can think of is I thought he was having sight problems a few years back, got him tested and it came back negative. He's meant to be CEA and PRA clear just because his parents were, (though not sure every puppy in every litter was actually tested before going to their new homes?) nothing obvious like cataracts or glaucoma, and he's not nervous outside with complete strangers approaching him which you think he would be if he couldn't see them coming at all, not running into anything or anything like that (although he's lived here since 8 weeks old so probably has everything mapped out if he did have sight issues that hadn't been detected by the vet). I don't think he's totally blind or anything but it's as if his near vision isn't as good as his distance vision and maybe if they're moving their hand over him (if he's sat) to stroke on top of his head and he's moving his head further back he's not sure what they're going to do with their hand? Maybe it appears a blur to him kind of us looking through a frosted bathroom window and only seeing a shape and colours passing but no detail? (of the person passing the window). Though again he has no issues with me doing it. He used to growl when I was putting his harness on and often the hallway was dark (no light if the doors into rooms are shut) but if I said 'harness on' or 'stick your head in harness' he'd walk forwards and put it on no problem. My old dog was blind in her later years (cataracts) and I used to describe everything to her so she knew what was coming and of course since she died I stopped (not realising JJ was also possibly having sight issues). He's not a dog that would enjoy tests so I don't want to put him through them for them to come back negative (at all or at this stage..I know of some dogs whose PRA hasn't shown up/been diagnosed until they were over 6 years old) but he did come from a farm with sheep and he did used to be a bit of a poo eater and I've heard of dogs getting parasites from that which caused them sight problems. (He did have giardia as a pup and took us a while to find him a food he was ok with that helped him gain weight) It did leave him with a sensitive tummy and he's on completely grain mainly free fish based diet, though no one ever mentioned back at the time that these parasites can also cause sight problems, but that's the only other thing I can think of as a possibility? ..other than the death of his companion affecting him more than I realised? ..or him just being a sensitive soul who prefers some people more than others! Although he used to guide my old girl back to the back door at night when she'd gone out for a wee which made me think he can't be having sight issues, or if he has he's always had them so doesn't know any different?
  10. Thanks for answering. The only other thing I can think of is I haven't had men in the house since my older girl passed. My brother was here and the guy who came to take her body for cremation (the vet and vet nurse were female) he came in for a fuss from the vets, briefly sniffed my other dogs nose after she had been PTS then had to go in bedroom behind dog gate while the front door was opened so the vets could leave and the cremation guy could take her body. ..it's just been me and him since so unless he associates men particuarly being in the house and then his companion being taken away, I don't know. Had him from 8 weeks old so my eldest was top dog was when arrived and has been nearly 4yrs. I wondered if he didn't feel as confident greeting people? or not sure of his role/position now? but as I said he's been fine outside greeting other people both male and female. He's not had any injuries, not limping or showing any signs of being in pain. I've had Clinical Depression since the passing of my older dog so unless he's picking up on that and feels its now his job to protect me? ..Again though had no problems outside chatting to other people whilst out and he's sat there until we've finished chatting and moved on. Does seem odd its only them he's reacted like this with, unless its a coincidence cos they're the first thats visited and stayed a while in the house since my old girl passed.
  11. These friends have been visiting since he was a puppy so he knows them, however twice now there has been 'odd incidents' that only involved this specific friend. Th first one the other year, he had gone to greet her and they'd gone out in the garden when I went out he was laid at top of hill panting heavily and had a patch of fur missing under his right eye. it wasn't there before she arrived. Despite her seeing me looking round garden to try and work out what he'd caught it on she never said a word. He did go to her for fuss. She came a few times in between with partner and one or two of their kids (teens) at xmas and he was fine with them all. Last Sunday they visited the first time we'd seen them since my older dog passed away, he went in to say hello, but hen he snapped at friends partner twice when he tried to stroke him and growled at my friend when she was asking him what was wrong. I asked if they'd pushed him away when he went in to say hello and she said no, and suggested it was cos he's not used to males (meaning him snapping at her partner ..I'm female and live on my own), however he does see and meet other men when we're out walking and today was fine when we were on an awkward blind bend with 2 blokes coming other way with a very yappy terrier. One bloke had picked up their dog the other stroked JJ under his chin as he passed, he just wagged his tail, never growled or snapped. I can think of other males he likes and has no problem with and has even gone to give them a cuddle. My friend makes out that she can't trust JJ but he's fine with everyone else except them since he's grown up...so I'm somewhat mystified! He is incredibly intuitive and I trust him as I always remember when we were out at lake and there's a guy who always fussed him but this particular day JJ was really pressing his body into him hugging him. I later found out from another walker that the man's wife had died and it was her funeral that day, JJ obviously sensed his deep sadness. Has anyone else's collie ever taken a dislike to someone you were already friends with (or a family member)? Did you ever find out if there was a reason? Thanks
  12. yes I eventually found a grain free food that he seemed to be ok on. Stuck with fish based one, he has mostly fish as red meat seemed to make him hyper when he was really young and gives him squits if he was eating it daily. He can now also tolerate fresh cooked chicken, turkey and pork as an occasional treat in the week (usually a bit from the sunday roast with veg as a topper on his dinner) but his diet is mostly fish based with grain free treats and dried treats. Recently i found a place sold whole raw fish like sprats and sardines, sea bass etc which I freeze a bit for him and give him whole as a giant chew. Just keeps him busy for a bit longer if its frozen! ..and lasts longer than the dried ones too! The night blindness I didn't notice until he was a bit older as he initially slept in a crate and was usually in there when I turned lights on or off at night. It wasn't until he was fully toilet trained and I left crate open at night so he could sleep where ever he wanted that I noticed he'd stay out of way when I was watching telly in bed (with no lamp on so TV light was really bright and right at end of bed in front of him) he'd come and join us when I turned telly off but would stick his head between opening in curtains so he could see the light from security light on patio just outside the bedroom window (I'm in a bungalow), or he'd go near the ensuite toilet if I'd left a door open as there was no blind so the moonlight would come through more when it was a bright/full moon. It wasn't until he literally ran into the back of a parked white van on the pavement, which he didn't see cos the sun was so bright (I had dark sunglasses on cos of glare on the road too) that I asked the vet to check his sight too when I took my old girl for her annual check up. It does make me wonder now whether there was a connection between the parasite, if he had got to sheep poo when he was still on a puppy before he came to me, that would explain his sight not developing properly and his initial tummy problems/no weight gain/delayed growing etc too?
  13. Did your vet say why they thought your dog had CEA and what the symptoms were? JJ has always had his eyes colour kind of going into each, always had big pupils and the lines across his eyes, but I was told his parents were both clear of CEA. Though it seems they only actually test the parents for it and every pup in the litter.
  14. My collie came from a farm with sheep and he has the little threads across his eyes and breaking up the pupils I had his eyes tested just before he was 2 yr old as he sometimes didn't seem to see things, but was told it was cos he was so focused and had a high prey drive, the vet said his eyes looked fine at the time. i pointed out the 'threads' she said that's just how his eyes have coloured as they look smudged like a water colour thats bled into its neighbouring colour. As they said his sight was fine and my old girl was found to definitely have cataracts I think they felt i was just overly worrying cos she had been diagnosed as going blind. However when my collie first came to me, he had ALOT of tummy troubles I was told to give him Panacur cos it was probably Giardia as he'd come for a farm with sheep. It took ages to clear initially and he appeared to be allergic to all different foods I tried and wasn't gaining in size or weight. Eventually it seemed to settle down and he started to grow and catch up, but I never knew at that time that cause sight problems in the dog also. he's nearly 4 now and still appears to see things sometimes and not others. (will fail to see something right in front of him but can track a moving ball). I'm wondering if this parasite could have caused blind spots in his central vision would account for him seeing in some situations and struggling in others? He's never liked bright sunlight either and his pupils have always been like saucers. (again was told cos he was high drive and very excitable/intense). But if he did have 'blind spots' (or small spots where his vision is more blurry) then could the pupil be reacting to try and let more light in cos of them? which is why he doesn't like bright light (similar to snowblindness I guess?)
  15. I loved the story of The Wily Sheepdog too, just shows how intelligent collies are and how well they can compensate http://www.bordercollierescue.org/dogs/Case%20Histories/WilySheepdog.html And Chica the amazing collie in US who has radar like senses and runs round her farm without hitting anything even though she has no eyes!
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